Mennonite Measles in Texas

[R7ehr]

I swerved and grinded to a stop this morning, because someone else almost broadsided me, by blasting out from a side street. We stopped a few feet apart. Funny to see the topic of accidents today on Mennonet.

[Szdfan]

I swerved and grinded to a stop this morning, because someone else almost broadsided me, by blasting out from a side street. We stopped a few feet apart. Funny to see the topic of accidents today on Mennonet.

Are you okay? Is your car?

[Soloist]

I don’t overly like grouping people who refuse to vaccine in with people who drive dangerously.
Perhaps this situation, it could be applicable, as it doesn’t appear to be a religious aspect.

Driving, dangerously or recklessly is laziness or just a lack of care.

Choosing not to vaccinate for religious reasons is probably more comparable to choosing to drive a buggy rather than a car, even though the risk is higher of death from collisions.

Oddly enough, I almost got hit the other day too…

[JohnH]

I don’t overly like grouping people who refuse to vaccine in with people who drive dangerously.
Perhaps this situation, it could be applicable, as it doesn’t appear to be a religious aspect.

Driving, dangerously or recklessly is laziness or just a lack of care.

Choosing not to vaccinate for religious reasons is probably more comparable to choosing to drive a buggy rather than a car, even though the risk is higher of death from collisions.

Oddly enough, I almost got hit the other day too…

I was comparing it to choosing to drive at all.

[Ken]

I don’t overly like grouping people who refuse to vaccine in with people who drive dangerously.
Perhaps this situation, it could be applicable, as it doesn’t appear to be a religious aspect.

Driving, dangerously or recklessly is laziness or just a lack of care.

Choosing not to vaccinate for religious reasons is probably more comparable to choosing to drive a buggy rather than a car, even though the risk is higher of death from collisions.

Oddly enough, I almost got hit the other day too…

Has this Mennonite community in west Texas made any reasoned religious objection to the MMR vaccine? I haven't heard any.

Mostly it just seems to be a combination of general anti-vax and anti-government sentiment combined with inertia and being an insular community outside the media mainstream.

[R7ehr]

I swerved and grinded to a stop this morning, because someone else almost broadsided me, by blasting out from a side street. We stopped a few feet apart. Funny to see the topic of accidents today on Mennonet.

Are you okay? Is your car?

Yep. Very close. No contact. Probably going around 40. He had a stop sign, sort of a blind intersection due to a building. I don't know if he ran his stop sign, or if he just didn't see me and tried to cross the street.

[JohnH]

Has this Mennonite community in west Texas made any reasoned religious objection to the MMR vaccine? I haven't heard any.

Do they need to?

Mostly it just seems to be a combination of general anti-vax and anti-government sentiment combined with inertia and being an insular community outside the media mainstream.

Is there something wrong with being outside of the "media mainstream"?

[Judas Maccabeus]

I don’t overly like grouping people who refuse to vaccine in with people who drive dangerously.
Perhaps this situation, it could be applicable, as it doesn’t appear to be a religious aspect.

Driving, dangerously or recklessly is laziness or just a lack of care.

Choosing not to vaccinate for religious reasons is probably more comparable to choosing to drive a buggy rather than a car, even though the risk is higher of death from collisions.

Oddly enough, I almost got hit the other day too…

Has this Mennonite community in west Texas made any reasoned religious objection to the MMR vaccine? I haven't heard any.

Mostly it just seems to be a combination of general anti-vax and anti-government sentiment combined with inertia and being an insular community outside the media mainstream.

I have yet to hear a reasoned religious or theological objection, the whole "cell line" reasoning is conspicuous in its absence. Mostly I have heard something like "I've done my own research." Some don't seem to understand that anyone can post anything on the internet.

As to this particular group, they have a very long history of negative interactions with the wider world. There is a four century long legacy of broken promises.

Add to the poor state of science education in conservative Mennonite communities, and you have the perfect storm.

[Soloist]

I have yet to hear a reasoned religious or theological objection, the whole "cell line" reasoning is conspicuous in its absence. Mostly I have heard something like "I've done my own research." Some don't seem to understand that anyone can post anything on the internet.

I am assuming you are referring to the broader population and not my religious cell line argument?

[JohnH]

Add to the poor state of science education in conservative Mennonite communities, and you have the perfect storm.

Perfect storm of what? I have found conservative Mennonite communities to be significantly more literate when it comes to science than the average population. There are no problems at all applying advanced science to fields ranging from agricultural to materials science in metalworking or other manufacturing.

The fact a population decides not to submit to taking combination vaccines of dubious quality does not mean they have a "poor state of science education". It means they are immune to propaganda.