Mennonite Measles in Texas

[Southerner]

A lot of Mennos and Amish are probably on small rural water systems or well water that isn't fluoridated. That probably has an effect as well.

I took a small pink fluoride pill every morning growing up. I have beautiful teeth...w filled cavities. None are missing.

Also it occurs to me that dental coverage tends to be something that only larger employers offer. So a large percentage of Mennos and Amish who farm or own small businesses or work for small businesses likely don't have dental insurance. Of course one doesn't need dental insurance to see a dentist. But if you are already paying for the coverage, might as well use it. I can send my kids to their annual checkups, knowing that it is covered, as are any fillings they might need.

No, I don't have dental insurance. Dentist offers a cash discount. I just had an annual exam including x ray and one cavity filled to the tune of $450. Might need to find a more affordable dentist.

[Ken]

I took a small pink fluoride pill every morning growing up. I have beautiful teeth...w filled cavities. None are missing.

Also it occurs to me that dental coverage tends to be something that only larger employers offer. So a large percentage of Mennos and Amish who farm or own small businesses or work for small businesses likely don't have dental insurance. Of course one doesn't need dental insurance to see a dentist. But if you are already paying for the coverage, might as well use it. I can send my kids to their annual checkups, knowing that it is covered, as are any fillings they might need.

No, I don't have dental insurance. Dentist offers a cash discount. I just had an annual exam and one cavity filled to the tune of $450. Might need to find a more affordable dentist.

Yeah, I dunno what our dental insurance is actually costing as it comes out of my wife's paycheck and is subsidized by her employer. But ordinary checkups have a $5 co-pay and fillings cost about $20. If you get expensive work done like crowns or implants it is more of course. But still nothing close to paying cash.

[mike]

We're also an inbred mess. So there are diseases unique to marrying closely.

I'm really sorry to hear this

[Southerner]

Also it occurs to me that dental coverage tends to be something that only larger employers offer. So a large percentage of Mennos and Amish who farm or own small businesses or work for small businesses likely don't have dental insurance. Of course one doesn't need dental insurance to see a dentist. But if you are already paying for the coverage, might as well use it. I can send my kids to their annual checkups, knowing that it is covered, as are any fillings they might need.

No, I don't have dental insurance. Dentist offers a cash discount. I just had an annual exam and one cavity filled to the tune of $450. Might need to find a more affordable dentist.

Yeah, I dunno what our dental insurance is actually costing as it comes out of my wife's paycheck and is subsidized by her employer. But ordinary checkups have a $5 co-pay and fillings cost about $20. If you get expensive work done like crowns or implants it is more of course. But still nothing close to paying cash.

Could you please find out what your dental insurance is costing you a year? I am curious. Thanks.

[Southerner]

We're also an inbred mess. So there are diseases unique to marrying closely.

I'm really sorry to hear this

Me too!

[mike]

We're also an inbred mess. So there are diseases unique to marrying closely.

I'm really sorry to hear this

Me too!

In all seriousness, the issue is associated with specific groups of plain Mennonites who have intermarried for generations at this point, maybe centuries. It is a real and very challenging problem.

[Southerner]

I'm really sorry to hear this

Me too!

In all seriousness, the issue is associated with specific groups of plain Mennonites who have intermarried for generations at this point, maybe centuries. It is a real and very challenging problem.

Easily remedied, however. I just learned about the Byler disease...children born with defective livers and the children have to get a liver transplant at very young ages.

[randomguy]

I don't understand your question. "Overall health"????

There's this Make America Healthy Again slogan and the general sense that Americans aren't the healthiest bunch. Now here is a distinguishable community being put under the microscope for their position on vaccines, or low vaccination rates, but as a group, are they doing better than the general American public in the matters of health? I suspect they are. And if that's the case, there is this awkward moment where the top-down public health advice is being given to a group that is doing better on its own.

Ok, got it. So, no, I don't buy into RFK's mantra. When he speaks, he sounds very unhealthy.

Mennonites are overall pretty healthy but we deal with obesity, childhood diabetes and mental illness also like the rest of society. The difference is we are not into hard drugs.

Mennonites and Amish do tend to have bad teeth. They don't spend on dental work.

We're also an inbred mess. So there are diseases unique to marrying closely.

You will on occasion meet Mennonites who appear to be at death's door and they're the ones who are experimenting w tinctures or diets. A very good friend of mine goes to the local liquor store to get vodka to make his tinctures.

Along the rabbit holes I've been down I"ve become an RFK Jr super fan. The guy was trying to get mercury out water and was succeeding as far as the Hudson went when a group of Moms kept showing up at his events. One of them showed up on his porch insisting he simply read the studies of concern they had collected. That if he was concerned about mercury in rivers then what about in our blood. He read the studies. Asked his friend, vaccinologist extraordinaire, Dr. Paul Offit about this study and he told him dont' worry about it, it goes away. When he asked about a follow up study that found it went away by showing up in the brain tissue of the test subjects Offit stopped talking to him. That day on he became an advocate for better vaccines and that has made him a target for the vaccine industry. He managed to get thimersol removed from some vaccines. It helped that the EPA agreed with him bout the levels of mercury involved.

He also is a recovering addict and it took dedicating himself to God for him to break the addiction. He speaks of this journey of faith with Lex Friendman that I found genuine. So I think he'll try his best to do what he can. Which I think most people are. Our systems get us crossed up.

[Southerner]

There's this Make America Healthy Again slogan and the general sense that Americans aren't the healthiest bunch. Now here is a distinguishable community being put under the microscope for their position on vaccines, or low vaccination rates, but as a group, are they doing better than the general American public in the matters of health? I suspect they are. And if that's the case, there is this awkward moment where the top-down public health advice is being given to a group that is doing better on its own.

Ok, got it. So, no, I don't buy into RFK's mantra. When he speaks, he sounds very unhealthy.

Mennonites are overall pretty healthy but we deal with obesity, childhood diabetes and mental illness also like the rest of society. The difference is we are not into hard drugs.

Mennonites and Amish do tend to have bad teeth. They don't spend on dental work.

We're also an inbred mess. So there are diseases unique to marrying closely.

You will on occasion meet Mennonites who appear to be at death's door and they're the ones who are experimenting w tinctures or diets. A very good friend of mine goes to the local liquor store to get vodka to make his tinctures.

Along the rabbit holes I've been down I"ve become an RFK Jr super fan. The guy was trying to get mercury out water and was succeeding as far as the Hudson went when a group of Moms kept showing up at his events. One of them showed up on his porch insisting he simply read the studies of concern they had collected. That if he was concerned about mercury in rivers then what about in our blood. He read the studies. Asked his friend, vaccinologist extraordinaire, Dr. Paul Offit about this study and he told him dont' worry about it, it goes away. When he asked about a follow up study that found it went away by showing up in the brain tissue of the test subjects Offit stopped talking to him. That day on he became an advocate for better vaccines and that has made him a target for the vaccine industry. He managed to get thimersol removed from some vaccines. It helped that the EPA agreed with him bout the levels of mercury involved.

He also is a recovering addict and it took dedicating himself to God for him to break the addiction. He speaks of this journey of faith with Lex Friendman that I found genuine. So I think he'll try his best to do what he can. Which I think most people are. Our systems get us crossed up.

I didn't realize he dedicated himself to God. Hudson???? Hudson River, I take?

[JohnH]

What is the Mennonite "home remedy" for measles?

Did you notice the word “Generally”?

I was answering someone’s question and I put both specific and general answers to their questions.

I am aware you don’t like the idea of home remedies but you can feel free to litigate it somewhere else.