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[R7ehr]

I’m afraid that this is merely the leftists trying to salvage what they can of the fast-sinking power of DEI by attempting to undercut any criticism of DEI, by branding that criticism as racism.
If criticism of DEI is racist, then DEI in itself is nothing besides racist. Because if there is really nothing besides race to it, no gender aspect, then it is a racist full stop.

[JohnL]

Zelensky didn't interrupt. He asked JD if he could ask him a question to which Vance replied "Sure".

I think you should watch the entire video instead of this heavily edited hit piece. Z started talking over Vance’s words and interrupted first.

I have watched the entire video. And Zelensky never interrupted...Vance instead did. Please post where you see Zelensky interrupting.

I don’t think you did watch an unedited version. It’s pretty clear that Z interrupted Vance first. He also called Vance an b*****d in Ukrainian. Z’s behaviors are out of line and war-mongering to the point of starting WW3.

Either you need new glasses and hearing aids or you’re deliberately promoting fake news. Either way you said nothing about joining the forum to try to play gotcha as a Democrat supporter. The folks here know where to find unbiased vids and info.

[JohnH]

I think you should watch the entire video instead of this heavily edited hit piece. Z started talking over Vance’s words and interrupted first.

I have watched the entire video. And Zelensky never interrupted...Vance instead did. Please post where you see Zelensky interrupting.

I don’t think you did watch an unedited version. It’s pretty clear that Z interrupted Vance first. He also called Vance an b*****d in Ukrainian. Z’s behaviors are out of line and war-mongering to the point of starting WW3.

Either you need new glasses and hearing aids or you’re deliberately promoting fake news. Either way you said nothing about joining the forum to try to play gotcha as a Democrat supporter. The folks here know where to find unbiased vids and info.

I agree - muttering “s***a b***t” is inappropriate behavior in the Oval Office and during a negotiation. I’m surprised Vance showed as much restraint as he did. (Those of us from Ohio who grew up around our share of Ukrainians, Russians, Belarusians, Ruthenians, Pollacks, and so forth are familiar with Slavic foul language.)

[Southerner]

I think you should watch the entire video instead of this heavily edited hit piece. Z started talking over Vance’s words and interrupted first.

I have watched the entire video. And Zelensky never interrupted...Vance instead did. Please post where you see Zelensky interrupting.

I don’t think you did watch an unedited version. It’s pretty clear that Z interrupted Vance first. He also called Vance an b*****d in Ukrainian. Z’s behaviors are out of line and war-mongering to the point of starting WW3.

Either you need new glasses and hearing aids or you’re deliberately promoting fake news. Either way you said nothing about joining the forum to try to play gotcha as a Democrat supporter. The folks here know where to find unbiased vids and info.

Are you permitted to post like this on the forum?

[JohnH]

I have watched the entire video. And Zelensky never interrupted...Vance instead did. Please post where you see Zelensky interrupting.

I don’t think you did watch an unedited version. It’s pretty clear that Z interrupted Vance first. He also called Vance an b*****d in Ukrainian. Z’s behaviors are out of line and war-mongering to the point of starting WW3.

Either you need new glasses and hearing aids or you’re deliberately promoting fake news. Either way you said nothing about joining the forum to try to play gotcha as a Democrat supporter. The folks here know where to find unbiased vids and info.

Are you permitted to post like this on the forum?

Why is your instinct to reach for censorship?

[Southerner]

I have watched the entire video. And Zelensky never interrupted...Vance instead did. Please post where you see Zelensky interrupting.

I don’t think you did watch an unedited version. It’s pretty clear that Z interrupted Vance first. He also called Vance an b*****d in Ukrainian. Z’s behaviors are out of line and war-mongering to the point of starting WW3.

Either you need new glasses and hearing aids or you’re deliberately promoting fake news. Either way you said nothing about joining the forum to try to play gotcha as a Democrat supporter. The folks here know where to find unbiased vids and info.

I agree - muttering “s***a b***t” is inappropriate behavior in the Oval Office and during a negotiation. I’m surprised Vance showed as much restraint as he did. (Those of us from Ohio who grew up around our share of Ukrainians, Russians, Belarusians, Ruthenians, Pollacks, and so forth are familiar with Slavic foul language.)

But it's ok for Trump to say "damn" and hell?

[Southerner]

I don’t think you did watch an unedited version. It’s pretty clear that Z interrupted Vance first. He also called Vance an b*****d in Ukrainian. Z’s behaviors are out of line and war-mongering to the point of starting WW3.

Either you need new glasses and hearing aids or you’re deliberately promoting fake news. Either way you said nothing about joining the forum to try to play gotcha as a Democrat supporter. The folks here know where to find unbiased vids and info.

Are you permitted to post like this on the forum?

Why is your instinct to reach for censorship?

I am the one feeling censored, lol! We can have this back and forth all day! You want to skew news, go for it.

[Southerner]

I think you should watch the entire video instead of this heavily edited hit piece. Z started talking over Vance’s words and interrupted first.

I have watched the entire video. And Zelensky never interrupted...Vance instead did. Please post where you see Zelensky interrupting.

I don’t think you did watch an unedited version. It’s pretty clear that Z interrupted Vance first. He also called Vance an b*****d in Ukrainian. Z’s behaviors are out of line and war-mongering to the point of starting WW3.

Either you need new glasses and hearing aids or you’re deliberately promoting fake news. Either way you said nothing about joining the forum to try to play gotcha as a Democrat supporter. The folks here know where to find unbiased vids and info.

Post your raw video. As I have said before all the videos that I watched show Vance interrupting. And Vance lied...saying things like Zelensky campaigned for the opposition in PA when he visited a munitions factory in Scranton.

Saying I need glasses and hearing aids isn't appreciated.

[Bootstrap]

But it's ok for Trump to say "damn" and hell?

Trump and Musk are free to swear. Musk is free to dress however he wants, no need to wear a suit. These aren't actual standards that anyone wants to apply equally to all sides.

FWIW, I do think there's some doubt about what Zelensky actually said and meant.

[JohnH]

I don’t think you did watch an unedited version. It’s pretty clear that Z interrupted Vance first. He also called Vance an b*****d in Ukrainian. Z’s behaviors are out of line and war-mongering to the point of starting WW3.

Either you need new glasses and hearing aids or you’re deliberately promoting fake news. Either way you said nothing about joining the forum to try to play gotcha as a Democrat supporter. The folks here know where to find unbiased vids and info.

I agree - muttering “s***a b***t” is inappropriate behavior in the Oval Office and during a negotiation. I’m surprised Vance showed as much restraint as he did. (Those of us from Ohio who grew up around our share of Ukrainians, Russians, Belarusians, Ruthenians, Pollacks, and so forth are familiar with Slavic foul language.)

But it's ok for Trump to say "damn" and hell?

I don’t appreciate such language at all, but s***a b***t is far more incendiary.