Has America's culture of "wokeness" effected the Anabaptists?

[HondurasKeiser]

Are you ironically using “right wing” as a slur while accusing them of using “woke” as slur or are you just not that self-aware?

I think "right wing" is thrown about casually to paint center right and far right the same color. One way to combat this would be for the center right to separate from the far right and draw clear lines. As long as the center right defends Unite the Right rallies and ideas like NETR and Theonomy, they open themselves to be dismissed with broad brush attacks.

I agree that "far-right" and "right-wing" can be used as a slur, but they are also categories on the political spectrum. This is why I've asked about definitions for "far-right" in other conversations….

I think this is an interesting thread to pull on. Have you read anything by Matt McManus about the “post modern Right”?

[Szdfan]

I think "right wing" is thrown about casually to paint center right and far right the same color. One way to combat this would be for the center right to separate from the far right and draw clear lines. As long as the center right defends Unite the Right rallies and ideas like NETR and Theonomy, they open themselves to be dismissed with broad brush attacks.

I agree that "far-right" and "right-wing" can be used as a slur, but they are also categories on the political spectrum. This is why I've asked about definitions for "far-right" in other conversations….

I think this is an interesting thread to pull on. Have you read anything by Matt McManus about the “post modern Right”?

I haven't. I'm intrigued

[HondurasKeiser]

https://merionwest.com/2018/06/18/carl- ... servatism/

[mrbilliam]

Yes absolutely.

Women are to STAY SILENT IN CHURCH from speaking.

1 Corinthians 14:34
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

The Bible Speaks. Women should not speak in the church. Period. They don't teach, they don't comment, they don't share their testimony, they don't share their opinion.


Now watch the disagreements fly in. Wokeness definitely has affected the church.

Except when praying and prophesying of course. And if they can’t do that, perhaps they can also leave their coverings at home.

Because of course God doesn't hear prayers unless spoken out loud. My friend, silence does not mean not praying.

[ken_sylvania]

Yes absolutely.

Women are to STAY SILENT IN CHURCH from speaking.

1 Corinthians 14:34
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

The Bible Speaks. Women should not speak in the church. Period. They don't teach, they don't comment, they don't share their testimony, they don't share their opinion.


Now watch the disagreements fly in. Wokeness definitely has affected the church.

Except when praying and prophesying of course. And if they can’t do that, perhaps they can also leave their coverings at home.

Because of course God doesn't hear prayers unless spoken out loud. My friend, silence does not mean not praying.

I guess you figure they can prophesy silently as well?
Are they allowed to sing? Or do just the men sing in your church?

[mrbilliam]

Except when praying and prophesying of course. And if they can’t do that, perhaps they can also leave their coverings at home.

Because of course God doesn't hear prayers unless spoken out loud. My friend, silence does not mean not praying.

I guess you figure they can prophesy silently as well?
Are they allowed to sing? Or do just the men sing in your church?

Read the scripture again.

Women are to STAY SILENT IN CHURCH from speaking.

1 Corinthians 14:34-35
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 35And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

When do you hear SPEAKING in church? That's right, when somebody is teaching something or commenting on something.

Pre-Composed hymns are not somebody teaching directly or commenting.


Do you think women should stay silent and church and not speak?

[Josh]

If women aren’t praying or prophesying. Then why do they need to wear head coverings?

How does one prophesy silently?

[Szdfan]

https://merionwest.com/2018/06/18/carl- ... servatism/

It's a good piece and I'm chewing on it.

On what topics do you think that the extremes are shifting the Overton window? Do you agree with shifting the Overton window on those issues?

[HondurasKeiser]

https://merionwest.com/2018/06/18/carl- ... servatism/

It's a good piece and I'm chewing on it.

On what topics do you think that the extremes are shifting the Overton window? Do you agree with shifting the Overton window on those issues?

There's a quite a bit on that site from him that I think you'd find interesting. It might shock you to learn that I agree with very little of what he writes. Nevertheless, his grinding axe of " modern conservatives are really post modernists" has something to it.

The other questions you've posed are interesting but I may have to defer answering them as I'm a bit pressed for time right now.

[temporal1]

i want to add THOMAS SOWELL to the P.2 post with THE URBAN DICTIONARY and Catholic Church wrt wokeness.

Other: When it just doesn’t fit anywhere else.

Thomas Sowell is an economist, a former Marxist, he speaks on many topics. He emphasizes research and facts.
He has written many books, and has many youtube videos. i believe he’s living, in his 90’s.

With no order in mind, i hope to add lots of his work here. I WISH THERE WERE TRANSCRIPTS.

1995 / “The Visions of the Anointed” / “Self-Congratulation as Basis for a Social Policy” / 14:49 min.

[i believe this now has a new title: “Thomas Sowell: The Origins of Woke”]


It’s amazing how this 1995 interview resonates today.
(i wish) there was some indication his work is included in today’s basic ed, high school and college.

Enjoy.