Meanwhile, in France

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Szdfan

Re: Meanwhile, in France

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Josh wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:34 pm So, the Olympics either

(1) Blasphemes the Last Supper

or

(2) Celebrates false pagan Greek gods and disgusting, immoral practices they used to worship them.
What are the Olympics named after?
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ken_sylvania

Re: Meanwhile, in France

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Szdfan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:44 pm
Josh wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:34 pm So, the Olympics either

(1) Blasphemes the Last Supper

or

(2) Celebrates false pagan Greek gods and disgusting, immoral practices they used to worship them.
What are the Olympics named after?
The Tower of Babel.
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Re: Meanwhile, in France

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ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:02 pm
Szdfan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:44 pm
Josh wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:34 pm So, the Olympics either

(1) Blasphemes the Last Supper

or

(2) Celebrates false pagan Greek gods and disgusting, immoral practices they used to worship them.
What are the Olympics named after?
The Tower of Babel.
In 3 seconds I was able to discover that:
The word "Olympic" comes from the Greek word olimpiakos, which means "from Olympia or Olympus". The ancient Olympic Games were held in Olympia, a sacred site in southern Greece, from 776 BCE to around 393 CE. The name comes from Mount Olympus, the home of the Greek gods, and the Games were part of a religious festival to honor Zeus
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ken_sylvania

Re: Meanwhile, in France

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Ken wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:10 pm
ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:02 pm
Szdfan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:44 pm
What are the Olympics named after?
The Tower of Babel.
In 3 seconds I was able to discover that:
The word "Olympic" comes from the Greek word olimpiakos, which means "from Olympia or Olympus". The ancient Olympic Games were held in Olympia, a sacred site in southern Greece, from 776 BCE to around 393 CE. The name comes from Mount Olympus, the home of the Greek gods, and the Games were part of a religious festival to honor Zeus
So named after the Tower of Babel which was named sometime around 2,300 BC.
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Re: Meanwhile, in France

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ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:20 pm
Ken wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:10 pm
ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:02 pm
The Tower of Babel.
In 3 seconds I was able to discover that:
The word "Olympic" comes from the Greek word olimpiakos, which means "from Olympia or Olympus". The ancient Olympic Games were held in Olympia, a sacred site in southern Greece, from 776 BCE to around 393 CE. The name comes from Mount Olympus, the home of the Greek gods, and the Games were part of a religious festival to honor Zeus
So named after the Tower of Babel which was named sometime around 2,300 BC.
They are two separate things. What does the Tower of Babel have to do with anything? Are you claiming that the Tower of Babel was located on the Peloponnese peninsula in southern Greece where the Olympics originated and not Babylon as the Bible suggests? (Babel = Babylon)
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ken_sylvania

Re: Meanwhile, in France

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Ken wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:34 pm
ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:20 pm
Ken wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:10 pm

In 3 seconds I was able to discover that:

So named after the Tower of Babel which was named sometime around 2,300 BC.
They are two separate things. What does the Tower of Babel have to do with anything? Are you claiming that the Tower of Babel was located on the Peloponnese peninsula in southern Greece where the Olympics originated and not Babylon as the Bible suggests? (Babel = Babylon)
Calm down, my friend.

The Olympic Games were named after the Tower of Babel. That's all I'm saying.

Do you think they were named before the Tower of Babel?
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Szdfan

Re: Meanwhile, in France

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ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:43 pm
Ken wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:34 pm
ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:20 pm
So named after the Tower of Babel which was named sometime around 2,300 BC.
They are two separate things. What does the Tower of Babel have to do with anything? Are you claiming that the Tower of Babel was located on the Peloponnese peninsula in southern Greece where the Olympics originated and not Babylon as the Bible suggests? (Babel = Babylon)
Calm down, my friend.

The Olympic Games were named after the Tower of Babel. That's all I'm saying.

Do you think they were named before the Tower of Babel?
I think somebody is making a funny. :laugh
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Szdfan

Re: Meanwhile, in France

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Josh wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:34 pm So, the Olympics either

(1) Blasphemes the Last Supper
If the tableau at the Paris Olympics was parodying The Last Supper, then what it is parodying isn't the Last Supper of the Bible, but rather a famous Italian artistic depiction. It does not honor God to treat a painting or an object as holy to the point of accusing a parody of that object as "blasphemous." A painting of Christ, even as seared into our collective consciousness as the The Last Supper, is not the Bible, God, or Jesus. It's not even an icon in the Roman Catholic tradition.

To treat an object as sacred to the point that parodying it is blasphemy is idolatry.
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Szdfan

Re: Meanwhile, in France

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Szdfan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:14 pm
Josh wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:34 pm So, the Olympics either

(1) Blasphemes the Last Supper
If the tableau at the Paris Olympics was parodying The Last Supper, then what it is parodying isn't the Last Supper of the Bible, but rather a famous Italian artistic depiction. It does not honor God to treat a painting or an object as holy to the point of accusing a parody of that object as "blasphemous." A painting of Christ, even as seared into our collective consciousness as the The Last Supper, is not the Bible, God, or Jesus. It's not even an icon in the Roman Catholic tradition.

To treat an object as sacred to the point that parodying it is blasphemy is idolatry.
Rene Magritte made a similar point with his 1929 painting "The Treachery of Images."
Image
Beneath the pipe he wrote: "This is not a pipe."

Magritte wrote about the painting --
The famous pipe. How people reproached me for it! And yet, could you stuff my pipe? No, it's just a representation, is it not? So if I had written on my picture "This is a pipe", I'd have been lying!
The painting is not the thing itself. It is a representation of the thing. The painting The Last Supper is not the Last Supper itself, it is an artistic depiction or representation of the Last Supper. So while parodying the painting might be offensive or in poor taste, it's not blasphemous unless one believes that the painting itself is holy.

But it's not a parody of the Last Supper and some of the so-called defenders of Western Civilization need to brush up on their Greek mythology.
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RZehr

Re: Meanwhile, in France

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In your persistent loyalty to perverse values over Christianity, you are parsing the point to death, sorry so say.
Both the Olympic event and the painting, are depictions of a historic Biblical event where Jesus played the prominent role. The painting tried to honor the last supper. The Olympics tried to dishonor the last supper.
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