Alex Jones...

Things that are not part of politics happening presently and how we approach or address it as Anabaptists.
temporal1

Re: Alex Jones...

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ohio jones wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2024 10:51 pm
Bootstrap wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2024 11:38 am
Josh wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2024 3:55 pm This seems to be a regular contribution from some contributors in nearly every thread.
I restored the bit you left out so people can see the context.

No, I'm not appealing to my expertise. I'm merely responding to the claim that I just did a quick Google and cut and paste.
I thought it was obvious from the context that she was talking about Ken. But I guess you can yelp if you feel targeted.
yes, in a passing, tertiary way. most of us use google (?) i do .. not all accept google results as final or comparable to more thorough studies. no study is guaranteed to be without bias or fault, not in history or in contemporary times.

i empathize with human longing to find indisputable facts.
scriptures counsel about filthy rags.
Isaiah 64:6 https://biblehub.com/isaiah/64-6.htm

if that passage doesn’t convince of the need for humility, i don’t know what would.
Josh:
.. I am not a Holocaust denier and I doubt temporal1 is either, but I'll let her speak for herself.
i’m not a Holocaust denier.
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Bootstrap

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JohnHurt wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2024 8:15 amSo I went to the Nashville Public library and found an old set of the World Atlas for each year, starting in 1929 to 1939. At that time, they recorded the total number of different races of people in each country. It had the total number of Jews in Germany for each year, as well as the Jews in Poland, France, and all of the other countries that were to be occupied by Nazi Germany after these Atlases were created. It gave me the numbers I needed to understand who was telling the truth about 6 million Jews dying in the Holocaust. And it was an unimpeachable source, as it was published by a non-biased source before the Holocaust controversy occurred.
Here's a theme in your posts - "who was telling the truth". Do you believe that Holocaust Deniers tell some outrageously false lies in order to get people worked up against Jews and governments? I have seen some of them say things like "there weren't 6 million Jews in Germany, so they are lying to us". But most of these deaths were not German Jews. And it doesn't take much research to find out where the victims came from.

Population statistics vary somewhat by source, but they are largely uncontroversial. I would assume that the numbers in a Gazetteer would be pretty similar to the numbers published in sources like these:

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/es ... l-solution

https://www.thoughtco.com/number-of-jew ... ry-4081781

The Anne Frank house has a map that shows this kind of breakdown by country:

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According to USHHM, the Jewish population inside Germany was only 237,723, and 165,200 German Jews were killed, about 65% of the population. Most of the Jews who were killed came from other places. 2,770,000-3,000,000 came from Poland. 1,340,000 came from the Soviet Union. These tables show the other places they came from.

Yad Vashem has PDFs that list the names of most of these victims by country. For instance, here is the USSR:

https://www.yadvashem.org/yv/pdf-drupal ... nglish.pdf
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Bootstrap

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Bootstrap wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:11 am Yad Vashem has PDFs that list the names of most of these victims by country. For instance, here is the USSR:

https://www.yadvashem.org/yv/pdf-drupal ... nglish.pdf
Actually, the PDFs seem to be a small sample from their database, which is much more complete.

https://www.yadvashem.org/archive/hall- ... abase.html
The Central Database of Shoah Victims’ Names is a unique international endeavor initiated and led by Yad Vashem. Its primary aim is to recover the names and reconstruct the life stories of each individual victim of the Shoah. To date an estimated four and a half million Jews murdered in the Shoah have been commemorated in the database.
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Josh

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Can someone please move the Holocaust discussion to a thread in the Politics subforum?

It isn’t a current event, and Alex Jones hasn’t (to my knowledge) been involved in any controversies about the Holocaust.

Thanks.
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Re: Alex Jones...

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Josh wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 12:26 pm Can someone please move the Holocaust discussion to a thread in the Politics subforum?

It isn’t a current event, and Alex Jones hasn’t (to my knowledge) been involved in any controversies about the Holocaust.

Thanks.
Well it isn't politics either. It is history.
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Josh

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Ken wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 1:08 pm
Josh wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 12:26 pm Can someone please move the Holocaust discussion to a thread in the Politics subforum?

It isn’t a current event, and Alex Jones hasn’t (to my knowledge) been involved in any controversies about the Holocaust.

Thanks.
Well it isn't politics either. It is history.
Debate about it is certainly political.
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JohnHurt

Re: Alex Jones...

Post by JohnHurt »

Josh wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 12:26 pm Can someone please move the Holocaust discussion to a thread in the Politics subforum?

It isn’t a current event, and Alex Jones hasn’t (to my knowledge) been involved in any controversies about the Holocaust.

Thanks.
I moved it to the History subforum.

One of the reasons they want to silence Alex Jones is all of the guests that he has on his show. He has people like Dr. David Martin, who explains the progression of the COVID virus and vaccines through the years.

The most damaging part is what Dr. Martin says is verifiable, like when the patents were issued can be seen at the US Patent and Trade Office website.

So anyone can investigate these claims, that COVID and the deadly shots were intentional, and discover the truth. Jones is the only one that is doing this level of investigative journalism.

That is why the Establishment is trying to shut him down.

Here is a short video of Dr. David Martin, I cannot get it to show up in the video player.

https://banned.video/watch?id=667602bdcc6c9de467fea009

[media]https://madmaxworld.tv/watch?id=667602b ... e467fea009[/media]
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