JayP wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 1:08 pm
Why do ask Max? Doesn’t your “fellowship” already have such programs such as schools and CCD programs?
Plain Catholics don’t have anything formal. Last I heard, they travel the country in RV’s and need alternatives for their training.
Incorrect. Plain Catholics live on rural homesteads and ranches “out in the boonies” as Americans say. Some of us travel when we retire.
Are there any other serious and sincere answers to the OP? If one does not have a sincere and serious answer to the specific OP query, then one can move on to other threads without commenting.
MaxPC wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:43 pm
Incorrect. Plain Catholics live on rural homesteads and ranches “out in the boonies” as Americans say. Some of us travel when we retire.
Are there any other serious and sincere answers to the OP? If one does not have a sincere and serious answer to the specific OP query, then one can move on to other threads without commenting.
I’ve only met Rv traveling plain Catholics. Sorry, you must know unusual examples not common.
The point though is that you don’t have established training.
MaxPC wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:43 pm
Incorrect. Plain Catholics live on rural homesteads and ranches “out in the boonies” as Americans say. Some of us travel when we retire.
Are there any other serious and sincere answers to the OP? If one does not have a sincere and serious answer to the specific OP query, then one can move on to other threads without commenting.
I’ve only met Rv traveling plain Catholics. Sorry, you must know unusual examples not common.
The point though is that you don’t have established training.
As you have nothing to contribute to the OP, you are asked to leave this thread.
MaxPC wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:43 pm
Incorrect. Plain Catholics live on rural homesteads and ranches “out in the boonies” as Americans say. Some of us travel when we retire.
Are there any other serious and sincere answers to the OP? If one does not have a sincere and serious answer to the specific OP query, then one can move on to other threads without commenting.
I’ve only met Rv traveling plain Catholics. Sorry, you must know unusual examples not common.
The point though is that you don’t have established training.
As you have nothing to contribute to the OP, you are asked to leave this thread.
Could you share with us some Plain Catholics who live on rural homesteads or ranches? The Catholics I've met (including ones who are homesteading) are very hospitable and friendly, including with plain Mennonite people. I'm sure Plain Catholics would be too.
Ken wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2024 12:34 am
No, the state doesn't ask you to do anything. You are free to have whatever kind of religious ceremony you want and not report it to the state. Nor do you need to ever claim to be married when interacting with the state. You can simply tell the state that it is no business of theirs whether or not you are married. The only reason to record your marriage with the state in the form of a state-issued marriage license is to claim the legal benefits of being married. The same legal benefits you want to deny to others.
In Pennsylvania it's illegal for a minister to perform a marriage ceremony if the couple has not obtained a marriage license from the state.
I can’t imagine any Mennonite church telling a couple that they aren’t married, if they got legally married and lived together, but never had a church wedding ceremony.
MaxPC wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:43 pm
Incorrect. Plain Catholics live on rural homesteads and ranches “out in the boonies” as Americans say. Some of us travel when we retire.
Since you made this claim, I figured it would be on-topic in your thread. (Perhaps you would like to retract this statement, and then we don't need to discuss it in this thread any further.)
Otherwise, I am very curious where we might meet some of these Plain Catholics in rural homesteads or ranches (or even in RV parks).
Ken wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2024 12:34 am
No, the state doesn't ask you to do anything. You are free to have whatever kind of religious ceremony you want and not report it to the state. Nor do you need to ever claim to be married when interacting with the state. You can simply tell the state that it is no business of theirs whether or not you are married. The only reason to record your marriage with the state in the form of a state-issued marriage license is to claim the legal benefits of being married. The same legal benefits you want to deny to others.
In Pennsylvania it's illegal for a minister to perform a marriage ceremony if the couple has not obtained a marriage license from the state.
I have known some people who claim you shouldn't get marriage certificates. Needless to say, if I had a daughter, I would be quite suspicious of such a gentleman if he wanted to marry her.
MaxPC wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:43 pm
Incorrect. Plain Catholics live on rural homesteads and ranches “out in the boonies” as Americans say. Some of us travel when we retire.
Since you made this claim, I figured it would be on-topic in your thread. (Perhaps you would like to retract this statement, and then we don't need to discuss it in this thread any further.)
Otherwise, I am very curious where we might meet some of these Plain Catholics in rural homesteads or ranches (or even in RV parks).
Offtopic. If you cannot answer the OP then leave the thread.
Moses wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 8:52 pm
In Pennsylvania it's illegal for a minister to perform a marriage ceremony if the couple has not obtained a marriage license from the state.
This surprises me as the trend among states is to forgo state interference in religious ceremonies: that includes marriage and ministers. It seems that PA law is ripe for challenging from a religious liberty group.
