Alex Jones...

[Bootstrap]

The mainstream media are so dull. They report very little real or useful information. That is why no one listens to them. They are dead.

Facts are often kind of dull. And a lot less exciting than the lies people make up without proof. Facts also take a lot more time and a lot more work to understand. But facts are a much more solid foundation than drama.

For information that has to be verified as true, the technique is to video an unimpeachable source, like the person that developed the mRNA vaccine technology, and let him tell you how it causes a spike protein that creates blood clots. Or the lady that worked in the Chinese lab in Wuhan.

Or the Republican poll watchers that were run out of Cobo Hall in Detroit in 2020, with cardboard put over the windows so they could not see the election being stolen. Those video interviews are priceless.

But there is no such thing as an unimpeachable source. These facts need to be checked, weighed against what other "unimpeachable sources" are saying. And in today's "pick your favorite influencer" model, people develop deep trust in one-sided sources. Sources that earn more money by being outrageous than by telling the truth. Alex Jones is a good example.

That's one really big problem with the partisan divide. Instead of discussing things from many points of view and looking at the evidence on all sides, people are increasingly picking their favorite influencers, then believing most of what they are fed. All the while, insisting that they are smarter than all those other people who don't.

And deep skepticism and cynicism are increasingly seen as some kind of deep knowledge. They aren't.

[Ernie]

Facts are often kind of dull. And a lot less exciting than the lies people make up without proof. Facts also take a lot more time and a lot more work to understand. But facts are a much more solid foundation than drama.

[ohio jones]

For information that has to be verified as true, the technique is to video an unimpeachable source, like the person that developed the mRNA vaccine technology, and let him tell you how it causes a spike protein that creates blood clots. Or the lady that worked in the Chinese lab in Wuhan.

Or the Republican poll watchers that were run out of Cobo Hall in Detroit in 2020, with cardboard put over the windows so they could not see the election being stolen. Those video interviews are priceless.

But there is no such thing as an unimpeachable source.

Nor is video a guarantee of authenticity. It's quite capable of being faked and twisted; not quite as easily as print media or audio, but I've seen enough reasonably convincing efforts by amateurs to have some idea of what pros might be able to do.

[mike]

For information that has to be verified as true, the technique is to video an unimpeachable source, like the person that developed the mRNA vaccine technology, and let him tell you how it causes a spike protein that creates blood clots. Or the lady that worked in the Chinese lab in Wuhan.

Or the Republican poll watchers that were run out of Cobo Hall in Detroit in 2020, with cardboard put over the windows so they could not see the election being stolen. Those video interviews are priceless.

But there is no such thing as an unimpeachable source.

Nor is video a guarantee of authenticity. It's quite capable of being faked and twisted; not quite as easily as print media or audio, but I've seen enough reasonably convincing efforts by amateurs to have some idea of what pros might be able to do.

OJ are you being defensive of your brother in this thread

[Ken]

What videos are you guys talking about?

I don't know what videos there were of the Sandy Hook shooting. But there were literally HUNDREDS of eye witnesses who were there and lived through it.

[ohio jones]

OJ are you being defensive of your brother in this thread

No no, I'm from the Inigo and E. Fay and Henry Walton branch of the family, no relation to Alex.

[RZehr]

OJ are you being defensive of your brother in this thread

No no, I'm from the Inigo and E. Fay and Henry Walton branch of the family, no relation to Alex.

Can you prove this? Do you have video evidence from an unimpeachable source that is perfectly aligned with my biases?

[JohnHurt]

But there is no such thing as an unimpeachable source.

Here are some examples of an unimpeachable source:

In the 1990's I researched Holocaust Denial, and looked at the information provided by the Institute for Historical Review vs. the Wiesenthal center to understand both sides. You cannot trust either side.

So I went to the Nashville Public library and found an old set of the World Atlas for each year, starting in 1929 to 1939. At that time, they recorded the total number of different races of people in each country. It had the total number of Jews in Germany for each year, as well as the Jews in Poland, France, and all of the other countries that were to be occupied by Nazi Germany after these Atlases were created. It gave me the numbers I needed to understand who was telling the truth about 6 million Jews dying in the Holocaust. And it was an unimpeachable source, as it was published by a non-biased source before the Holocaust controversy occurred.

I also studied how 4 million Jews were gassed and cremated at Auschwitz. To find an unimpeachable source, I studied how a gas chamber in the USA works, how it is evacuated and cleaned, and other issues, which is an unimpeachable source. I also studied how long it takes to cremate a body in the USA funeral industry, which is also an unimpeachable source. And cremation doesn't go faster with more bodies, it makes it take longer. I looked at how much fuel and how many crematories would be needed if they ran the crematories 24/7 for the period of 1940 to 1945 to process 4 million deaths. Math is also an unimpeachable source. From this exercise, I was able to understand the correct answer about what really happened.

Today the insurance companies are reporting a significant increase in excess deaths, apparently from the COVID shots. Math doesn't lie. Young athletes are falling down after taking the shot. And the insurance companies are not lying.

But anyone that reports on the problems with the COVID vaccine will endure the same fate as a Holocaust Denier. Alex Jones was one of the first to show that mRNA was dangerous. That is why they are waging lawfare against Jones with the Sandy Hook case that happened 12 years ago.

To sue Jones because he questioned the media, when they put Anderson Cooper and one of the fathers of the Sandy Hook kids in front of a green screen, with the parent smiling and giggling before going on air - to sue Jones for questioning what the media did, that is ridiculous.

The persecution of Alex Jones is not about Sandy Hook, it is about COVID.

My friend's wife died from the COVID shot. She started trembling and was cold, when she finally got out of bed to use the toilet, she collapsed in the hallway and died from a heart attack. My friend watched his wife die, just a few days after her COVID shot.

Here is why they are suing Alex Jones, from his website:

A 56-year-old Taiwanese male with a medical history of colon cancer received the third dose of the #Moderna #mRNA-1273 COVID-19 vaccine.
Three days later, he developed fever and erosions of the mucous membranes.

The article is called:
Tons of Bizarre & Unusual Skin Disorders are Developing After Covid Vaccination — Multiple Case Studies Report

Here is the link on the Infowars site, if you want to see it:

https://www.infowars.com/posts/tons-of- ... es-report/

This is the reason they are shutting down Alex Jones. It has nothing to do with grieving families for kids that died in 2012.
Jones is collecting information about what is really happening with COVID - right now - from around the world, and they have to shut Jones up.
That is why he is being sued for Sandy Hook.

And I would say the pictures in the articles are an unimpeachable source, as there are more where that originated. There is too much information to be bogus.

But you can do your own research.

Alex Jones predicted the COVID Lockdowns in 2010 by reading white papers from the Rockefeller Foundation:

https://www.infowars.com/posts/watch-di ... s-in-2010/

It is very interesting to watch a much younger Alex Jones predict the lockdowns of 2020. The video of his prediction is also an unimpeachable source.

[Szdfan]

But there is no such thing as an unimpeachable source.

Here are some examples of an unimpeachable source:

In the 1990's I researched Holocaust Denial, and looked at the information provided by the Institute for Historical Review vs. the Wiesenthal center to understand both sides. You cannot trust either side.

So I went to the Nashville Public library and found an old set of the World Atlas for each year, starting in 1929 to 1939. At that time, they recorded the total number of different races of people in each country. It had the total number of Jews in Germany for each year, as well as the Jews in Poland, France, and all of the other countries that were to be occupied by Nazi Germany after these Atlases were created. It gave me the numbers I needed to understand who was telling the truth about 6 million Jews dying in the Holocaust. And it was an unimpeachable source, as it was published by a non-biased source before the Holocaust controversy occurred.

I also studied how 4 million Jews were gassed and cremated at Auschwitz. To find an unimpeachable source, I studied how a gas chamber in the USA works, how it is evacuated and cleaned, and other issues, which is an unimpeachable source. I also studied how long it takes to cremate a body in the USA funeral industry, which is also an unimpeachable source. And cremation doesn't go faster with more bodies, it makes it take longer. I looked at how much fuel and how many crematories would be needed if they ran the crematories 24/7 for the period of 1940 to 1945 to process 4 million deaths. Math is also an unimpeachable source. From this exercise, I was able to understand the correct answer about what really happened.

So I think there a number of problems with the assumptions being made here.

1) First of all, 4 million Jews were not murdered and cremated at Auschwitz. Historians estimate that 1 million Jews were murdered at Auschwitz. Auschwitz, however, was not the only place where Jews were murdered and cremated during the Holocaust. There were five other death/extermination camps built by the Nazis — Belzec, Chelmno, Majdanek, Sobibor and Treblinka. There were also extermination and euthanasia centers that weren’t camps.

Then there were the deaths at the thousand concentration camps and sub camps in Germany and occupied territories which weren’t specifically death camps like Auschwitz. Main camps included camps Arbeitsdorf, Bergen-Belsen, Buchenwald, Dachau, Flossenbürg, Gross-Rosen, Herzogenbusch, Hinzert, Kaiserwald, Kauen, Kraków-Płaszów, Mauthausen, Mittelbau-Dora, Natzweiler-Struthof, Neuengamme, Niederhagen, Ravensbrück, Sachsenhausen, Stutthof, Vaivara and Warsaw.

Then there the deaths at the 270 Jewish ghettos in Poland and Eastern Europe, often from starvation and illness.

A third of Jewish victims were murdered by mobile killing units (Einsatzgruppen) that followed the Wehrmacht during the invasion of Poland and the Soviet Union.

I think your numbers calculating the amount of cremations at Auschwitz are wrong because your assumption that the only place the Nazis killed Jews was at Auschwitz is wrong.

2) I don’t believe in “unimpeachable” sources, but the estimates for the amount of Jews murdered in the Holocaust are based on detailed German records. Why didn’t you look at those records?

[Ken]

Oh good grief. Is Alex Jones into Holocaust denial too? I guess that would figure.

The fact of the matter is that the Holocaust is one of the most meticulously and thoroughly documented events in all of human history. There were hundreds of thousands of eye witnesses and participants who have given endless volumes of eye-witness accounts to legions of investigators and historians. There are millions upon millions of pages of documents that recorded every aspect of the event. Because if the Germans were anything it was meticulous and thorough. There are millions of photographs and more are being uncovered every day. There have been endless trials with meticulously documented evidence. And many of the sites where it happened are still preserved for all to see.

Holocaust denialism is like slavery denialism. Yes there are those who claim that the horrors and abuses of slavery are just an invented northern plot to make the south look bad. They are just as disingenuous and deceitful as the Holocaust denial crowd. And no, just because someone throws out some wild lie about some historical event doesn't mean the truth lies "somewhere in-between." All it means is that they are a liar.