War in Gaza

[Robert]

Interesting perspective.

[Josh]

I would be rather surprised if George Soros were paying anyone to engage in anti-Israeli protesting, given that Soros has a long history of promoting pro-Israeli policy. I guess I could see him conducting a “false flag”?

[HondurasKeiser]

This piece from Politico suggest it's a complicated morass of interests and donors.

[Bootstrap]

For anyone with the time, this is a really good piece on the moral dilemmas in this war and just how hard it is to do anything right. There's an auto-generated transcript on the Youtube version.

Benjamin Wittes on Israel, Gaza, and Implications for U.S. Foreign and Domestic Policy

On April 24, Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes delivered a Watson Distinguished Lecture at the Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs at Brown University to discuss the Israel-Gaza war and the implications for U.S. foreign and domestic policy. He talked about Israel’s incompatible objectives of freeing hostages and eradicating Hamas, the moral context of the war, U.S.-Israeli relations in this context, what the U.S. and Israel still have in common—and what they no longer have in common—in this environment, and how the war could affect U.S. presidential elections.

[Ernie]

Has there ever been a war in which a major country has supplied military aid to a country that is going after a common enemy (and destroying a lot of infrastructure and many civilians in the process), while at the same time offering aid to surviving civilians of that state? (on a scale like we currently see in Gaza)

America loves doing that. Iraq, Afghanistan. “Hearts and minds.”

It is called the Three Block something or other. The first block is the fighting, The next block is the securing the infrastructure and the third block is humanitarian, if I am remembering it right. The US military used this in all the recent conflicts.

but on the same scale as Gaza?

[Josh]

America loves doing that. Iraq, Afghanistan. “Hearts and minds.”

It is called the Three Block something or other. The first block is the fighting, The next block is the securing the infrastructure and the third block is humanitarian, if I am remembering it right. The US military used this in all the recent conflicts.

but on the same scale as Gaza?

The operation in Iraq was much larger scale. Of course, it didn’t work in the long run.

[Bootstrap]

but on the same scale as Gaza?

The operation in Iraq was much larger scale. Of course, it didn’t work in the long run.

How are you measuring scale?

[Ken]

News is reporting that Hamas has accepted a ceasefire proposal: https://apnews.com/article/israel-pales ... 4aa4be53e0

And that Israel and Netanyahu are the obstacles and announcing their rejection of a ceasefire.

I'm curious to see if international pressure and US pressure will lead Israel to reconsider. I think at this point Netanyahu believes that continued war is in his political interest. So we will probably get more war in the service of Netanyahu's political career.

[Bootstrap]

Interesting perspective.

Any evidence that this is true? Something we can look at? He makes a lot of very concrete claims. Should be easy to show the proof if they are true. He says he actually looked at the evidence.

[temporal1]

This piece from Politico suggest it's a complicated morass of interests and donors.

It’s a political minefield for biden. i doubt morality has anything to do with it.
i’m off-put by his attempts to insert the U.S. as THE DEFINING AUTHORITY in this (and every world conflict).

biden wants to be seen as the big hero, much as W did in Iraq. for politics.