briar patch

[Josh]

As a general rule, MennoNet is not an accurate place to get information about the Catholic church. Many people come here and expound many different opinions, which may or may not be moored in reality.

I have often chosen to bide my time and let blatant misinformation go.

[Judas Maccabeus]

As a general rule, MennoNet is not an accurate place to get information about the Catholic church. Many people come here and expound many different opinions, which may or may not be moored in reality.

I have often chosen to bide my time and let blatant misinformation go.

Like maybe a Catholic forum? Rather from people who they burned at the stake 500 years ago.

[temporal1]

Ken, and perhaps others. I really am trying to create a “I am right..you are wrong” situation here.

That's not helpful, nor is it within the forum guidelines, if it's what you intended to say.

At the same time, it does sort of have a fresh, blunt, clarity to it.

RZehr, thanks for pointing this out.
This is an example of why i wouldn’t want to be a moderator.

i’m enjoying this topic, started by CM, or cM, i’m not sure.
Naturally, Catholic views are pertinent. It’s helpful to know how+why things unfolded as they did in history, and, how things are today. i’m not sure i can very well imagine a time when Catholicism was the formal state Church, i’m pretty certain now i have ancestors on both sides, quite weighted on Protestants+Anabaptists, but, let’s face it, these groups came out of the RCC. Often unwillingly.

JayP is new to MN, to begin, his personal candor is “above average,” this invites respect. It suggests, “A man without guile.”
i don’t presume this is easy or painless. It sure is something Jesus appreciates.

.. “It’s not what you say, it’s what people hear” by Frank Luntz

Diane Brady
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dianebrady/

Frank Luntz
https://www.concordia.net/community/frank-luntz/

Words that Work by Frank Luntz
https://www.nateliason.com/notes/words-work-frank-luntz

Summary Notes
“It’s not what you say, it’s what people hear.

You can have the best message in the world, but the person on the receiving end will always understand it through the prism of his or her own emotions, preconceptions, prejudices, and preexisting beliefs.”

“Words that work, whether fiction or reality, not only explain but also motivate.
They cause you to think as well as act.
They trigger emotion as well as understanding.”

Ten rules for successful communication:

Simplicty: Use small words
Brevity: Use short sentences
Credibility is as important as philosophy
Consistency matters
Novelty: Offer something news
Sound and texture matters
Speak aspirationally, people forget what you say but not how you made them feel
Visualize, the word “imagine” is an incredibly powerful tool
Ask a question, help them reach the point on their own
Provide context and explain relevance .. ..

^^on my reading list.

[JayP]

ROFL…..

Some time ago I mistyped and said I am trying to create a I am right you are wrong……



Lol. Totally meant NOT. LOL

[ohio jones]

Ken, and perhaps others. I really am NOT trying to create a “I am right..you are wrong” situation here.

I thought maybe that was the case, thanks for clarifying.

[temporal1]

[Falco Knotwise]

As a general rule, MennoNet is not an accurate place to get information about the Catholic church. Many people come here and expound many different opinions, which may or may not be moored in reality.

I have often chosen to bide my time and let blatant misinformation go.

Like maybe a Catholic forum? Rather from people who they burned at the stake 500 years ago.

Naw. I think I’ll stay partly just to keep annoying people like you.

Is this okay with moderators that JM keeps suggesting Catholics aren’t welcome on this forum?

Also, the comment is quite off topic. How about instead of just inserting gratuitous anti-Catholic bigotry into threads perhaps JM should consider starting his own threads?

The persecution of Anabaptists is also another potential topic to start a new thread if he so wishes.

[Falco Knotwise]

By the way, just to be clear, except where I might specifically say so, I’ve never said my thinking represents THE Catholic point of view. I am A Catholic but there are as many different kinds of thinking within Catholicism as there are within anabaptism, including polar opposites.

I think it’s fair to say that the traditional Catholic view of liberalism is that it glorifies ignorance of Biblical teachings turning it into a principle of freedom, progress and equality — that is my shorthand assessment of it. For all that can be said in favor of it, I do think that is a fair criticism of liberalism — and in my opinion you’d have to be blind not to see it!

If you hear those guys in the video talking about how the Church since Vatican II has been influenced by the sexual revolution, feminism, and neomarxist social justice issues I think it’s pretty clear how all that is supported by liberalism in general.

I do not say sexual abuse in the RCC was caused by liberalism but I do believe the widespread prevalence of it within the RCC is due in large measure to the permeation of liberal thinking within its institutions.

[Judas Maccabeus]

As a general rule, MennoNet is not an accurate place to get information about the Catholic church. Many people come here and expound many different opinions, which may or may not be moored in reality.

I have often chosen to bide my time and let blatant misinformation go.

Like maybe a Catholic forum? Rather from people who they burned at the stake 500 years ago.

Naw. I think I’ll stay partly just to keep annoying people like you.

Is this okay with moderators that JM keeps suggesting Catholics aren’t welcome on this forum?

Also, the comment is quite off topic. How about instead of just inserting gratuitous anti-Catholic bigotry into threads perhaps JM should consider starting his own threads?

The persecution of Anabaptists is also another potential topic to start a new thread if he so wishes.

I am suggesting that if you want accurate information on the “Church of Rome” this is not tha place to get it. If you want a forum for which you perceive as anti-catholic comments are censored, remember, this is a MENNONITE forum. I could start quoting the Pillars of our faith who were vehemently anti-catholic. I could quote some of our confessions of faith that are equally anti catholic.

You want “respect” for the institution of the Church of Rome? You likely will not find it from me i will not kowtow to the antichrist Church of Rome.

[Falco Knotwise]

Like maybe a Catholic forum? Rather from people who they burned at the stake 500 years ago.

Naw. I think I’ll stay partly just to keep annoying people like you.

Is this okay with moderators that JM keeps suggesting Catholics aren’t welcome on this forum?

Also, the comment is quite off topic. How about instead of just inserting gratuitous anti-Catholic bigotry into threads perhaps JM should consider starting his own threads?

The persecution of Anabaptists is also another potential topic to start a new thread if he so wishes.

I am suggesting that if you want accurate information on the “Church of Rome” this is not tha place to get it. If you want a forum for which you perceive as anti-catholic comments are censored, remember, this is a MENNONITE forum. I could start quoting the Pillars of our faith who were vehemently anti-catholic. I could quote some of our confessions of faith that are equally anti catholic.

You want “respect” for the institution of the Church of Rome? You likely will not find it from me i will not kowtow to the antichrist Church of Rome.

I have a suggestion where you can stick your antiCatholic bigotry and your “respect” . . .

Btw, not all Mennonites share your bigotry here, despite the impression you’re trying to give. I’ve been on this forum for years, haven’t met with your level of hatred yet. Are you out to turn the rest of them into bigots?