Outcomes of Overturning Roe Vs. Wade

Things that are not part of politics happening presently and how we approach or address it as Anabaptists.
temporal1

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NedFlanders wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 1:48 am It would be amazing if everyone knew that a pregnant woman would always be graciously cared for by any Christian. That we would sacrifice without second thought to help. That they could always find love and support. That they were so encouraged by our lives that abortion would be put far from their minds because of such love. We don’t need the kingdoms of darkness to help in anyway, we need the kingdom of God springing forth because of lives sold out for Christs call of loving God and neighbour.
i think i agree with all of this, and, i know many are dedicated to this very end.

unfortunately, there are lots of abortions by those who have no financial hardship, or social isolation, they abort for perceived convenience, self-centeredness, greed, ambition .. complicated by a continual gov-supported drumbeat that they should do so, for everyone’s benefit, including the exterminated unborn’s.

it’s gruesome. and normalized. and profitable, for promoters.

there are perfectly able men+women, even married, who think nothing of ending unborn life, their own and others’.
it’s celebrated in the public square.
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JimFoxvog

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NedFlanders wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 1:48 am It would be amazing if everyone knew that a pregnant woman would always be graciously cared for by any Christian. That we would sacrifice without second thought to help. That they could always find love and support. That they were so encouraged by our lives that abortion would be put far from their minds because of such love. We don’t need the kingdoms of darkness to help in anyway, we need the kingdom of God springing forth because of lives sold out for Christs call of loving God and neighbour.
This would be the best way to prevent abortion. Second best would be assured care by governmental means. I don't know that legal bans are very effective.
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temporal1

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JimFoxvog wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:35 am
NedFlanders wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 1:48 am It would be amazing if everyone knew that a pregnant woman would always be graciously cared for by any Christian. That we would sacrifice without second thought to help. That they could always find love and support. That they were so encouraged by our lives that abortion would be put far from their minds because of such love. We don’t need the kingdoms of darkness to help in anyway, we need the kingdom of God springing forth because of lives sold out for Christs call of loving God and neighbour.
This would be the best way to prevent abortion. Second best would be assured care by governmental means. I don't know that legal bans are very effective.
“Assured care by gov means” has resulted in MAJOR damage to traditional families, which many now believe is largely to blame for rudderless youth and young people, increased crime and violence. Deep cultural damage.

How to mitigate damages? “More” spending of taxes (other people’s money) is unlikely to be an answer, except in how it makes proponents feel really good about themselves. Thomas Sowell describes this phenom well.

My guess is, as a Christian, but understanding Christians were never alone in understanding the value of traditional marriage,
sexual relations, carnal knowledge, needs to be returned to the HIGH STAKES activity God designed.

Sex was never “just for fun” with no consequences.

When i read about some high profile woman or man sharing about how their abortion “was a great thing” that “saved their career,” i’m sickened. Today, this dubious “education” is foisted on every child/teen, AND gov funding is provided to ensure the unborn of the less wealthy are not overlooked on the (literal chopping block). We can’t have that! Equal rights for execution of the blameless.

i’m convinced your motives are pure.

Evidence of decades is in. Gov tampering with God’s design is a poor path.
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Falco Knotwise

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temporal1 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 1:24 amIn addition to the evilness of promotion of carnal sin and death of this admin, along with blatant rejection of a SCOTUS ruling,
this sort of deliberate+reckless, obfuscation of language contributes to (confusion) when authentic violent and criminal acts occur, example, Hamas, Oct 7.

For cheap political shots, words are made meaningless, communication is compromised.
There are too many examples.
He’s “dangerous and extreme.”
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temporal1

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Falco Knotwise wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:26 am
temporal1 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 1:24 amIn addition to the evilness of promotion of carnal sin and death of this admin, along with blatant rejection of a SCOTUS ruling,
this sort of deliberate+reckless, obfuscation of language contributes to (confusion) when authentic violent and criminal acts occur, example, Hamas, Oct 7.

For cheap political shots, words are made meaningless, communication is compromised.
There are too many examples.
He’s “dangerous and extreme.”
He’s “the end of democracy.”
He’s “a dictator.”
Unarmed young mothers attending school board meetings are “domestic terrorists.” (This one deserves a special idiocy award. Let us not forget the willingness to embrace exaggeration.)

“abortion and child mutilation are (cough) health care”
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Grace
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=temporal1 post_id=212411 time=1701619090 user_id=81]

He’s “the end of democracy.”
He’s “a dictator.”
Unarmed young mothers attending school board meetings are “domestic terrorists.” (This one deserves a special idiocy award. Let us not forget the willingness to embrace exaggeration.)

“abortion and child mutilation are (cough) health care”

Add that to the lies he purports almost every time he speaks. The other day he claimed he taught at the University of Pennsylvania for four years. He did no such thing. Although that lie isn't at the same level as killing unborn babies up until time of birth and cutting off children's body parts as being "healthcare", it still was a lie.
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justme

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Grace wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 4:44 pm
=temporal1 post_id=212411 time=1701619090 user_id=81]

He’s “the end of democracy.”
He’s “a dictator.”
Unarmed young mothers attending school board meetings are “domestic terrorists.” (This one deserves a special idiocy award. Let us not forget the willingness to embrace exaggeration.)

“abortion and child mutilation are (cough) health care”

Add that to the lies he purports almost every time he speaks. The other day he claimed he taught at the University of Pennsylvania for four years. He did no such thing. Although that lie isn't at the same level as killing unborn babies up until time of birth and cutting off children's body parts as being "healthcare", it still was a lie.
who is "he?"
i scrolled the whole way to the top of the page and can't figure out who is being talked about
can someone enlighten me, please?
thanks
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AndersonD
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justme wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 4:49 pm
Grace wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 4:44 pm
=temporal1 post_id=212411 time=1701619090 user_id=81]

He’s “the end of democracy.”
He’s “a dictator.”
Unarmed young mothers attending school board meetings are “domestic terrorists.” (This one deserves a special idiocy award. Let us not forget the willingness to embrace exaggeration.)

“abortion and child mutilation are (cough) health care”

Add that to the lies he purports almost every time he speaks. The other day he claimed he taught at the University of Pennsylvania for four years. He did no such thing. Although that lie isn't at the same level as killing unborn babies up until time of birth and cutting off children's body parts as being "healthcare", it still was a lie.
who is "he?"
i scrolled the whole way to the top of the page and can't figure out who is being talked about
can someone enlighten me, please?
thanks
I assume, being the posts are by Grace and Temp, that they are speaking about our God ordained president.
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temporal1

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Speaking for myself, gross exaggerations are made by lots of politicians, activists, and press, i don’t see a need to be specific.
The internet/social media has proved a superb mechanism for (everything gross/grotesque). It’s been getting me down recently.

Language is diluted/compromised, thus, when an authentic example of (example, authentic terrorism) appears, it’s hard if not impossible to find adequate words.

DJT made himself known for colorful language. Unfortunately, too many decided to accept it as a challenge in attempt to out-do him. The results are not pretty. (He’s not wholly responsible, however, he’s been made a household-recognizable example.)

He “is racist.”
He “is” .. fill in the blank.

Hope that helps.
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justme

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temporal1 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 6:58 pmHope that helps.
no, it does not help w my confusion.

and it may just be me, not able to follow your train of thot
if so, i do apologize for my denseness. and since it is my denseness, i'll just let it alone. thanks for at least attempting to help.
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