LaughingMyAnabapOff wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 9:34 am
I was once put under church discipline for having a radio antenna on my car. We had no specific "ruling" about antenna's (albeit, radios were STRICTLY forbidden). The argument was that I had the "appearance of evil".
Does that count for what you're looking for?
It would seem it would be much easier to simply remove the antenna and avoid church discipline. (My church doesn’t bother removing radios at all anymore, but we are expected to choose not to listen to the radio.)
Are you allowed recorded music? There for a bit the Horning church frowned on it, preached against it, but it was never a test of membership.
It is taught against and most church members don't do it, although Holdemans generally believe that an audio message of acapella singing on WhatsApp is not a "recording".
Young people going through a rebellious phase often listen to recorded music.
Josh wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:36 pmYoung people going through a rebellious phase often listen to recorded music.
Are these folks members of the church?
Yes, usually become members around age 11-14. Young people with struggles tend to dabble with worldliness a bit older than that. The advent of the smartphone means every young person has to face this temptation once they turn 16.
It is very easy to ones who these people are as often these kind of things are confessed before revivals.
LaughingMyAnabapOff wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 9:42 am
Oh.....and another "commonly understood" was that the top botton ONLY on the men's suit coat was to be buttoned. The other buttons were merely decoration. Buttoning any other buttons was considered to be "out of order" and/or "out of church uniform".
And the women's covering strings MUST be tied snug beneath the chin. Hanging/dangling strings, loosely tied strings, or the absence of strings altogether were all disciplinable offenses.
Interesting. I once was a part of a church where the top button needed to be buttoned even if no others were.
It got to the point that the SS superintendent stood inside the back door and told anyone who was having a part in the service to "button up"
Josh wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:36 pmYoung people going through a rebellious phase often listen to recorded music.
Are these folks members of the church?
Yes, usually become members around age 11-14. Young people with struggles tend to dabble with worldliness a bit older than that. The advent of the smartphone means every young person has to face this temptation once they turn 16.
It is very easy to ones who these people are as often these kind of things are confessed before revivals.
How do you feel about people joining the church at this age and then going through a rebellious stage?
Ernie wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 9:06 pm
Are these folks members of the church?
Yes, usually become members around age 11-14. Young people with struggles tend to dabble with worldliness a bit older than that. The advent of the smartphone means every young person has to face this temptation once they turn 16.
It is very easy to ones who these people are as often these kind of things are confessed before revivals.
How do you feel about people joining the church at this age and then going through a rebellious stage?
They often face temptations or struggles and indulge. Such young people often find themselves later desiring to repent or even have a reconsecretion experience. Of course, the majority of young people never go through this “phase”.
People who do go through often come out the other side with deeper convictions for why not to do things as opposed to simply being sheep who do what their shepherds tell them to, but without really thinking about it.
Such young people can be a dangerous influence on other youth.
LaughingMyAnabapOff wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 9:42 am
Oh.....and another "commonly understood" was that the top botton ONLY on the men's suit coat was to be buttoned. The other buttons were merely decoration. Buttoning any other buttons was considered to be "out of order" and/or "out of church uniform".
And the women's covering strings MUST be tied snug beneath the chin. Hanging/dangling strings, loosely tied strings, or the absence of strings altogether were all disciplinable offenses.
Interesting. I once was a part of a church where the top button needed to be buttoned even if no others were.
It got to the point that the SS superintendent stood inside the back door and told anyone who was having a part in the service to "button up"
LaughingMyAnabapOff wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 9:42 am
Oh.....and another "commonly understood" was that the top botton ONLY on the men's suit coat was to be buttoned. The other buttons were merely decoration. Buttoning any other buttons was considered to be "out of order" and/or "out of church uniform".
Interesting. I once was a part of a church where the top button needed to be buttoned even if no others were.
It got to the point that the SS superintendent stood inside the back door and told anyone who was having a part in the service to "button up"
You mean this dude would get a pass?
The reference is to the top button of a suit coat, presumably an un-lapeled coat. If this guy would just button (or hook, it's an Amish-style coat) the top of the coat and also the top shirt button, he'd have the look.