Time for a headcovering thread!

[Josh]

I must have misunderstood your post then.

Wear kapps during the week but add hanging veils during church services. This eliminates any desire by the laity to change from kapps to veils.

I thought you were suggesting this for others and not your own group

Well, I think our practice is a good one and that other groups would be wise to adopt it. Perhaps it would also be good, though, to switch from complex hard-to-make organdy kapps to a somewhat plainer and simpler style.

[Soloist]

Well, I think our practice is a good one and that other groups would be wise to adopt it. Perhaps it would also be good, though, to switch from complex hard-to-make organdy kapps to a somewhat plainer and simpler style.

I think having 1 style for church and one style for elsewhere is suggestive that there is a belief that one is a covering and one is an identifier.
I don’t see it as a good practice to have a separation between Sunday and other days.
That being said, I am pretty positive that the original Anabaptists did not wear these expensive mesh caps. I can see a soft cap as historical.
If the veil is objectionable, the soft cap shouldn’t be.

[Josh]

Well, I think our practice is a good one and that other groups would be wise to adopt it. Perhaps it would also be good, though, to switch from complex hard-to-make organdy kapps to a somewhat plainer and simpler style.

I think having 1 style for church and one style for elsewhere is suggestive that there is a belief that one is a covering and one is an identifier.
I don’t see it as a good practice to have a separation between Sunday and other days.
That being said, I am pretty positive that the original Anabaptists did not wear these expensive mesh caps. I can see a soft cap as historical.
If the veil is objectionable, the soft cap shouldn’t be.

The one for Sunday is simply more formal and also expresses the importance of a proper covering for worship where prayer and prophecy are definitely expected to be happening. The everyday kapp is simpler and expresses more of a desire to be a simple covering for the kind of prayer that happens throughout the day. (In older days, women would don simple veils during morning devotions, and some families still do that.)

The current kapp actually evolved from the same babushka styles worn for church except folded up to be more practical for everyday wear.

[Soloist]

The one for Sunday is simply more formal and also expresses the importance of a proper covering for worship where prayer and prophecy are definitely expected to be happening. The everyday kapp is simpler and expresses more of a desire to be a simple covering for the kind of prayer that happens throughout the day. (In older days, women would don simple veils during morning devotions, and some families still do that.)

The current kapp actually evolved from the same babushka styles worn for church except folded up to be more practical for everyday wear.

I don’t doubt the reasoning, I object to it.
I favor Justin Martyrs logic of every day is a day to the Lord. Creating additional symbolism to make a holy day isn’t what I would chose.

[ohio jones]

You just buy them from the local fabric store.

A few staunch traditionalists (or young people who like “vintage” things) insist on making their own.

Not everyone can walk in a store and buy a cap. Oregon certainly didn’t have that option nor did several other states.
If no one knows how to make it, the practice will eventually die.

I recall years ago on MD one of the ladies (probably AnabaptistEnigma) mentioned that she stopped by Wal-Mart and picked up several coverings.

[Soloist]

I recall years ago on MD one of the ladies (probably AnabaptistEnigma) mentioned that she stopped by Wal-Mart and picked up several coverings.

I can only think of corny jokes

[HondurasKeiser]

You just buy them from the local fabric store.

A few staunch traditionalists (or young people who like “vintage” things) insist on making their own.

Not everyone can walk in a store and buy a cap. Oregon certainly didn’t have that option nor did several other states.
If no one knows how to make it, the practice will eventually die.

I recall years ago on MD one of the ladies (probably AnabaptistEnigma) mentioned that she stopped by Wal-Mart and picked up several coverings.

Add that to "The People of Walmart".

[Heirbyadoption]

Well, I think our practice is a good one and that other groups would be wise to adopt it. Perhaps it would also be good, though, to switch from complex hard-to-make organdy kapps to a somewhat plainer and simpler style.

I think having 1 style for church and one style for elsewhere is suggestive that there is a belief that one is a covering and one is an identifier...
That being said, I am pretty positive that the original Anabaptists did not wear these expensive mesh caps. I can see a soft cap as historical. If the veil is objectionable, the soft cap shouldn’t be.

I'm curious if anybody here can direct us to the earliest Anabaptist records or mandates for a denomination/group identifying style of covering/cap/kapp, ie when this sort of thing shifted from sisters wearing a (perhaps Swiss or German) cultural style to a group identifying style...?

[Soloist]

Well, I think our practice is a good one and that other groups would be wise to adopt it. Perhaps it would also be good, though, to switch from complex hard-to-make organdy kapps to a somewhat plainer and simpler style.

I think having 1 style for church and one style for elsewhere is suggestive that there is a belief that one is a covering and one is an identifier...
That being said, I am pretty positive that the original Anabaptists did not wear these expensive mesh caps. I can see a soft cap as historical. If the veil is objectionable, the soft cap shouldn’t be.

I'm curious if anybody here can direct us to the earliest Anabaptist records or mandates for a denomination/group identifying style of covering/cap/kapp, ie when this sort of thing shifted from sisters wearing a (perhaps Swiss or German) cultural style to a group identifying style...?

Wife: I can't direct you to a record (it may be in one of the books at the Hopewell OR library), but I believe I either read or had a bishop tell me that the Protestants switched from a veil to a capp/bonnet after their split from the Catholics to differentiate themselves from the Catholics. That's why a few people at least justify it. I'm pretty sure some book I read said that Amish used to wear this weird sunhat/droopy sombrero type style and were resistant to changing at one point. No actual reference since I don't remember the book, but maybe someone with resources can look into it.

[Ernie]

I'm pretty sure some book I read said that Amish used to wear this weird sunhat/droopy sombrero type style and were resistant to changing at one point.

There are Amish in eastern Ohio who still dress this way.