I don't believe I'm racist in practise. We are all human beings and Jesus died to save all of us from our sins. So, if God called me to minister in dangerous settings, like David Wilkerson was, I should follow that call.
I have shared this before that I had an uncle that hated all african american people. He could not see any good in any of them and he would have them killed off like Hitler killed off millions of Jews. Then he got saved, born again. My dad and he went to a mission in downtown Detroit that was mainly folks of african american descent to see how this mission was operating. My dad told us how he knew my uncle truly had a born again experience as he witnessed my uncle with his arm around an old and smelly african american man telling him about Jesus. This took a miracle of grace to make such a dynamic change in my uncle.
Sometimes my flesh/old nature temps me to think in a racist way but then the Holy Spirit brings to my memory that this is a soul Christ died to save. And but for the grace of God, there go I. I believe if I am walking in the Spirit, I will overcome any racist thoughts that pop into my head. Actually, those thoughts are replaced by a love for that person that only comes from God.
I'm not racist, but....
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Neto
Re: I'm not racist, but....
There is only one 'race', the human race. So since I oppose people marrying outside of the human race, I suppose I'm a "racist".
I don't think I'm racist in the sense of the question here, however. But perhaps an observer would be a better judge of that. (I'm more 'afraid' or uneasy around cops than I am around people of other ethnicities.)
I don't think I'm racist in the sense of the question here, however. But perhaps an observer would be a better judge of that. (I'm more 'afraid' or uneasy around cops than I am around people of other ethnicities.)
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Soloist
Re: I'm not racist, but....
I used to have a confederate flag… I cut it up when I started really walking with Jesus.
Regardless of what I believed it meant, it has no place in a Christian’s life.
Regardless of what I believed it meant, it has no place in a Christian’s life.
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Neto
Re: I'm not racist, but....
I have never had one, but I was going to say that for most of the people I know who fly one, it is not a "racial statement". It is just a cultural symbol for them, like a Maple leaf for Canada, etc. But it also carries enough baggage that I wouldn't want to have or display one.
(I assume that when people say "Confederate flag", they are talking about the Virginia "battle flag". The actual Confederate flag is quite different.)
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Ken
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Re: I'm not racist, but....
We used to have Confederate flag discussions on occasion when I taught in Texas.Neto wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:18 pmI have never had one, but I was going to say that for most of the people I know who fly one, it is not a "racial statement". It is just a cultural symbol for them, like a Maple leaf for Canada, etc. But it also carries enough baggage that I wouldn't want to have or display one.
(I assume that when people say "Confederate flag", they are talking about the Virginia "battle flag". The actual Confederate flag is quite different.)
If asked my opinion I would tell my students it is the "loser flag" just like the Nazi swastika. And just like the swastika, people who fly and wear the Confederate flag are just telling us who they really are. And that frankly they are doing us a favor since you don't have to wonder if they are losers, they are coming out and proudly telling you that they are. My students were about 1/3 Black and 1/3 Hispanic and tended to appreciate that perspective.
In any event, the Confederate flag is most certainly a racist symbol in this country. It was brought back from obscurity as a racist symbol when the South was defending Jim Crow segregation against the Civil Rights movement, and essentially became the banner of opposition to Civil Rights. Georgia, for example, added it to their state flag in 1956. South Carolina began flying it over their state capitol in 1961. They weren't doing that for "heritage" it was opposition to the Civil Rights movement and desegregation.
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temporal1
Re: I'm not racist, but....
i agree, but not usually uneasy around police, no matter skin color.Neto wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:55 pm There is only one 'race', the human race. So since I oppose people marrying outside of the human race, I suppose I'm a "racist".
I don't think I'm racist in the sense of the question here, however. But perhaps an observer would be a better judge of that.
(I'm more 'afraid' or uneasy around cops than I am around people of other ethnicities.)
i never had one, either, they’re a little puzzling to me, but not as objectionable as some others. i don’t have any.Neto wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:18 pmI have never had one, but I was going to say that for most of the people I know who fly one, it is not a "racial statement". It is just a cultural symbol for them, like a Maple leaf for Canada, etc. But it also carries enough baggage that I wouldn't want to have or display one.
(I assume that when people say "Confederate flag", they are talking about the Virginia "battle flag". The actual Confederate flag is quite different.)
counseling hate/resentment is not a good choice, even for some perceived attempt at popularity.
not Jesus’ way. hopefully teens get better messages at home and church. two wrongs don’t make one right.
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temporal1
Re: I'm not racist, but....
About flags, i’ve never had a Christian flag, either, i don’t rigidly object to them, i tend to put all flags/banners/logos in a similar place. i don’t object to countries using them to define their borders, etc., it’s age-old practice, scriptures say there will be nations on earth .. defining borders/territories seems to be part+parcel of that. i don’t worship flags,i wrote:
i never had one (a confederate flag) either, they’re a little puzzling to me, but not as objectionable as some others.
i don’t have any (flags).
Just because they exist doesn’t mean they need to be respected or honored.
i appreciate the art aspect, some represent great talent. that’s not worship, as i understand it.
i agree with Dr Alveda King on this: there are more important things.
2020: “Alveda King tells protesters: 'If you find yourself going into a rage over a statue, step back'”
https://www.foxnews.com/media/alveda-ki ... tatue-rage
imho, if black conservative voices were better represented, there would be far less strife+conflict.
one-sided reporting+teaching does untold damage to our “modern” culture. peace is not the goal. peace doesn’t “sell.”
to me, this speaks to, it’s not skin color, it’s much more about common beliefs, values, even goals. universal interests.
Jesus came for all, He did not discrimnate according to appearance, location, or station in life.
Everlasting life is the universal interest.
This is described as the “moon flag?” .. i don’t recall, was this duo planted on the moon? - It wouldn’t be today!
Anyone could guess what would be planted today.
Flags are used for evil. The flag didn’t do it.
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JimFoxvog
Re: I'm not racist, but....
A way to check unconscious racism is with the Implicit Bias Test from Harvard's "Project Implicit". Many other biases can be tested. They use your reaction time in classifying pictures. Find it at https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/takeatest.html.
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temporal1
Re: I'm not racist, but....
21st Century Harvard, the bias is established.JimFoxvog wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:59 am A way to check unconscious racism is with the Implicit Bias Test from Harvard's "Project Implicit". Many other biases can be tested. They use your reaction time in classifying pictures. Find it at https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/takeatest.html.
There are 17 tests, 10 min each?
How did you do?
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