As Christians, what kind of government do we fear?
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Josh
Re: As Christians, what kind of government do we fear?
I happen to be one of those people that thinks Jesus is king, is our lawgiver, and will eventually pass judgment on both the living and the dead - the righteous to eternal life and the wicked to eternal damnation.
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PetrChelcicky
Re: As Christians, what kind of government do we fear?
I have to come back to my point: The most dangerous government is a Puritan government hunting for sins and sinners. I connected this with the crusade against "child molestation" and the Amirault case. Now, David Cole has given an interesting historical account with consequences for our time:
https://www.takimag.com/article/the-gen ... ikes-back/
Cole sees the starting point in child unhappiness and mostly female empathizers and do-gooders interpreting that unhappiness in a frame given by contemporary media and institutions: The unhappiness results always from early molestation, memories are suppressed. (Even if those women work in institutions, Cole does not emphasize the state/bureaucratic angle in the way Paul Craig Roberts does, and in his footsteps I myself. But he emphasizes the role of professionals and names some of them.)
Cole sees a parallel in the present transgender movement. Child's are unhappy and grown-ups suggest them that their unhappiness is a result of having the wrong gender ascribed to them. Cole points to the Tavistock Institute who was central to the molestation diagnoses as now to the transgender diagnoses (in Britain).
Cole also defends the conservative Christans: They have in hindsight been accused to have invented the "Satanic"-sideline which connected child molestation to satanic rituals. Those kind of stories were indeed told mostly by children in Christian institutions because only they had a concept of "satanic" - but the children relied mostly on the popular movies of their time (The Exorcist, Silence of tha Lambs), and the "satanic molestation hype" had from day one an anti-Christian bias. (Rightwing Christian "owned" the hype only afterwards, Cole is as always concerned with dumb rightwing reactions to leftist frames and hypes.)
I find the parallel really interesting, but I accept that it does not corroborate my basic point. Obviously this now is not a hunting of "sinners" . The sinners in our actual case would be the midwives or doctors who have "ascribed" the gender, but they are not persecuted. On the other hand, Cole's depiction of the "molestation panic" is the best comprehensive approach I know.
https://www.takimag.com/article/the-gen ... ikes-back/
Cole sees the starting point in child unhappiness and mostly female empathizers and do-gooders interpreting that unhappiness in a frame given by contemporary media and institutions: The unhappiness results always from early molestation, memories are suppressed. (Even if those women work in institutions, Cole does not emphasize the state/bureaucratic angle in the way Paul Craig Roberts does, and in his footsteps I myself. But he emphasizes the role of professionals and names some of them.)
Cole sees a parallel in the present transgender movement. Child's are unhappy and grown-ups suggest them that their unhappiness is a result of having the wrong gender ascribed to them. Cole points to the Tavistock Institute who was central to the molestation diagnoses as now to the transgender diagnoses (in Britain).
Cole also defends the conservative Christans: They have in hindsight been accused to have invented the "Satanic"-sideline which connected child molestation to satanic rituals. Those kind of stories were indeed told mostly by children in Christian institutions because only they had a concept of "satanic" - but the children relied mostly on the popular movies of their time (The Exorcist, Silence of tha Lambs), and the "satanic molestation hype" had from day one an anti-Christian bias. (Rightwing Christian "owned" the hype only afterwards, Cole is as always concerned with dumb rightwing reactions to leftist frames and hypes.)
I find the parallel really interesting, but I accept that it does not corroborate my basic point. Obviously this now is not a hunting of "sinners" . The sinners in our actual case would be the midwives or doctors who have "ascribed" the gender, but they are not persecuted. On the other hand, Cole's depiction of the "molestation panic" is the best comprehensive approach I know.
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