Re-baptism in Jesus' name Trinitarian style

[Valerie]

I'm a trinitarian. If you go by scripture, the Apostles baptized in Jesus' name, as the personal name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ is the name of YHWH (the trinity) in the new testament.

If you go by the Catholic version, it came about in the second century when the Antichrist papacy usurped Jesus' and the Apostle's authority. The entire lot of Christendom followed him instead of scripture in the matter. That is why you see the Catholic version in all churches since then. Thanks for the opportunity to share.

I’ll throw this out there, which both Catholics, Oneness Pentecostals, “Jesus only”, and Reformed people would consider anathema:

It does not matter if you are baptised “in the name of Jesus” or “in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost”.

What matters is the desire of the supplicant to seek and follow Christ. Baptism is a step to do that in front of the church, and is a sign of officially joining the church.

Well I would just say if you are following Christ you would baptize as he said to do in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy Spirit. To say it does not matter whether you do this or not is to go against Christ very words.

[1689dave]

But, the name of the Trinity is Jesus Christ in the NT. Much proof if needed.

[MaxPC]

I’ll throw this out there, which both Catholics, Oneness Pentecostals, “Jesus only”, and Reformed people would consider anathema:

It does not matter if you are baptised “in the name of Jesus” or “in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost”.

What matters is the desire of the supplicant to seek and follow Christ. Baptism is a step to do that in front of the church, and is a sign of officially joining the church.

Actually, Catholics see it as one of a tripartite step of joining the Church and becoming a disciple of Christ.

[MaxPC]

But, if the Apostles were wrong, you cannot trust anything they said or did.

The Apostles were not wrong; they were explaining the Faith to unbelievers as well as they could within a context that their audience would understand. Not all languages can accommodate this kind of advanced theological thought.

But, the name of the Trinity is Jesus Christ in the NT. Much proof if needed.

Are you saying that you do not have faith in Jesus' words?

John 20:29

29 Jesus said to him, “Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

First it is important that you believe that Jesus is the Son of God. If Jesus is the Son of God, then everything that He says is Truth.

[Valerie]

But, if the Apostles were wrong, you cannot trust anything they said or did.

I think your simply drawing the wrong conclusions about their words in this area. You can read much writings about the earliest days of the church baptizing in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit. That was important. They were Christ words not to be brushed off. And since he used the apostles to start the church's everywhere throughout the world the fact that everywhere throughout the world they were baptizing this manner meant that the apostles taught them to baptize in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy spirit this was not made up later. You can also read very early uses of the word Trinity which was a word used as a concept of the father and of the Son and of the Holy spirit being three in one- something we accept by faith. It was never meant to imply three gods

Yes you can trust the the Holy Spirit was guiding the Apostles and Yes Jesus said "I am the way the Truth and the life ". It seems to be a misunderstanding that the apostles were teaching to baptize only in the name of Jesus, but they were to convey the difference between John's baptism and Jesus' s baptism-
Men are not infallible un writing or understanding.

When i received my chronological Bible, it was then that I discovered there was discrepancies in some of the accounts in the four Gospels, at first that really threw me- I just accept that and not stumble on it anymore

[1689dave]

I don't argue. I welcome your comments. I answer questions only but post on a take-it-or-leave-it basis.

[Valerie]

I don't argue. I welcome your comments. I answer questions only but post on a take-it-or-leave-it basis.

Well arguing isn't good, contending for the Faith once delivered to the saints, is what the Church has always done to protect it from heresy. A responsibility placed on us by Scripture itself

[Bootstrap]

But, the name of the Trinity is Jesus Christ in the NT. Much proof if needed.

How could Jesus send the Holy Spirit if Jesus is the whole trinity? How could he pray to the Father if he is the whole trinity?

[Josh]

But, if the Apostles were wrong, you cannot trust anything they said or did.

The Apostles did not share our post-enlightenment rationalist views that everything must be decided with crystal clear accuracy.

In reality saying “I baptise you on the name of Jesus” and “I baptise you in the name of the Son” are the same thing, and to someone born in the 1st century, they would consider modern day wrangling about such details absurd.

[Bootstrap]

The Command: “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:” Matthew 28:19 (KJV 1900)
The Interpretation: “(For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)” Acts 8:16 (KJV 1900)

“And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.” Acts 10:48 (KJV 1900)

“When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.” Acts 19:5 (KJV 1900)

“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.” Acts 2:38 (KJV 1900)

“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?” Romans 6:3 (KJV 1900)

To me, this implies that the exact wording is not critical. It's not a magical incantation that doesn't work if you don't use precisely the right words. Even if some wordings focus on Jesus only, others on Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.