Re-baptism in Jesus' name Trinitarian style

[1689dave]

Re-Baptism in Jesus’ name, Trinitarian style.

The Command: “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:” Matthew 28:19 (KJV 1900)
The Interpretation: “(For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)” Acts 8:16 (KJV 1900)

“And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.” Acts 10:48 (KJV 1900)

“When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.” Acts 19:5 (KJV 1900)

“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.” Acts 2:38 (KJV 1900)

“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?” Romans 6:3 (KJV 1900)


Why did it change from the Apostle's method?

The baptismal formula was changed from the Apostles’ baptism in the name of Jesus Christ to the words Father, Son, and Holy Spirit by the Catholic Church in the second century.

Baptism p263 Catholic Encyclopedia:

…”of this sacrament, the act of baptism must be expressed, and the matter and form be united to leave no doubt of the meaning of the ceremony. In addition to the necessary word “baptize”, or its equivalent, it is also obligatory to mention the separate persons of the Holy Trinity.”

The result? The Pope undermined Christ’s revelation about the name of the Trinity and the Apostles’ authority and gave it to himself. Most of Christendom follows the Catholic formula instead of scripture on the matter.

Question? What if the Papacy is the Antichrist? Doesn't this alone place him in the temple of God, the Church throughout all Christendom?

[Valerie]

Matthew 28:19:
Jesus the Christ's words:
"Go there for and Make disciples of all the nations baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit"

It was not a Catholic invention to do this this was the way the church baptized as you read the early church writers and fathers.

I think it's a mistake to assume the apostles were teaching to baptize in Jesus name only although they did want to make a distinction between John's baptism and Jesus is baptism- perhaps that is where the error and some denominations exist. But most Protestant denominations believe in baptizing in the name of the father and of the son and of the Holy Spirit.

[1689dave]

Thanks for your opinion.

[Valerie]

I think the point was in that it wasn't the pope, but Christ Himself as noted in the above passage his own words to baptize in the name of the Father and the Son and of the Holy Spirit I'm just pointing out that wasn't the popes idea

[Neto]

During my first year of Bible institute (1974-75) I met a guy from the group referred to as "Jesus Only", who attempted to convince me that I needed to be baptized again, but the opposite of what you are asking about, because I had been baptized in the Name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. (I wouldn't however, call this 'Trinitarian', but that is another discussion.)

[1689dave]

I'm a trinitarian. If you go by scripture, the Apostles baptized in Jesus' name, as the personal name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ is the name of YHWH (the trinity) in the new testament.

If you go by the Catholic version, it came about in the second century when the Antichrist papacy usurped Jesus' and the Apostle's authority. The entire lot of Christendom followed him instead of scripture in the matter. That is why you see the Catholic version in all churches since then. Thanks for the opportunity to share.

[MaxPC]

Matthew 28:19:
Jesus the Christ's words:
"Go there for and Make disciples of all the nations baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit"

It was not a Catholic invention to do this this was the way the church baptized as you read the early church writers and fathers.

I think it's a mistake to assume the apostles were teaching to baptize in Jesus name only although they did want to make a distinction between John's baptism and Jesus is baptism- perhaps that is where the error and some denominations exist. But most Protestant denominations believe in baptizing in the name of the father and of the son and of the Holy Spirit.

Quite: Jesus' words take precedence in any mandate. If Jesus Himself mandates, that is the form that is used. Just as in praying the Lord's Prayer.

Here are a few Biblical translations of said Bible verse:

Matthew 28:19 King James Version

KJV - 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost

AKJV - 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost

ESV - 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit

RSV - 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit

WYCLIFFE - 19 Therefore go ye, and teach all folks, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost

Other translations are as consistent in witnessing to the words of Jesus Christ.

[Valerie]

Justin Martyr:c. 100-165) From David Bercot's dictionary of Early Christian Beliefs
"Philosopher who converted to Christianity and became a tireless evangelist and apologist. Justin wrote more concerning Christianity than any other person prior to his time. He is classified here in as eastern, since he was a native of Samaria and his thought patterns were eastern. However he spent the last years of his life in rome, where he was executed as a martyr."

He said: "I will also relate the manner in which we dedicated ourselves to God when we have been made new through Christ. As many as our persuaded and believe that what we teach and say is true and undertake to be able to live accordingly, are instructed to pray and to entreat God with fasting, for the remission of their past sins. The rest of us pray and fast with them. They are brought by us where there is water, and are regenerated in the same manner in which we were regenerated ourselves. They there received the washing with water in the name of God the Father and Lord of the universe, of our Savior Jesus Christ, and of the Holy Spirit. For Christ also said unless you are born again you will not enter into the kingdom of heaven"

[Josh]

I'm a trinitarian. If you go by scripture, the Apostles baptized in Jesus' name, as the personal name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ is the name of YHWH (the trinity) in the new testament.

If you go by the Catholic version, it came about in the second century when the Antichrist papacy usurped Jesus' and the Apostle's authority. The entire lot of Christendom followed him instead of scripture in the matter. That is why you see the Catholic version in all churches since then. Thanks for the opportunity to share.

I’ll throw this out there, which both Catholics, Oneness Pentecostals, “Jesus only”, and Reformed people would consider anathema:

It does not matter if you are baptised “in the name of Jesus” or “in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost”.

What matters is the desire of the supplicant to seek and follow Christ. Baptism is a step to do that in front of the church, and is a sign of officially joining the church.

[1689dave]

But, if the Apostles were wrong, you cannot trust anything they said or did.