The Queen is dead

[Falco Underhill]

It means this entombed in marble in St. George's Chapel which I think is on the grounds of Windsor Castle.

Oops! I just noticed there's an actual picture of the "Royal Vault" here!

No sculpture on top like the ancient civilizations, though!

[MaxPC]

Oops! I just noticed there's an actual picture of the "Royal Vault" here!

No sculpture on top like the ancient civilizations, though!

Falco, they finished the marker. Here is the most recent photo of her grave.

[MaxPC]

Oops! I just noticed there's an actual picture of the "Royal Vault" here!

No sculpture on top like the ancient civilizations, though!

Falco, they finished the marker. Here is the most recent photo of her grave.

Addendum: the inscribed marker is properly named a ledger stone. It slipped my mind when writing the previous. I appreciate the plain and simple appearance of the stone, i.e. there are no carved statues or other decor as was done in the distant past.

[Falco Underhill]

Oops! I just noticed there's an actual picture of the "Royal Vault" here!

No sculpture on top like the ancient civilizations, though!

Falco, they finished the marker. Here is the most recent photo of her grave.

Addendum: the inscribed marker is properly named a ledger stone. It slipped my mind when writing the previous. I appreciate the plain and simple appearance of the stone, i.e. there are no carved statues or other decor as was done in the distant past.

Thanks for that, Max.

Best i can make out she's in an underground room (or "crypt") somewhere beneath that ledger stone. Her casket is probably sitting atop a pedestal, surrounded by flowers and covered by a cloth with royal insignia on it.

My guess is the "plain" design of the coffin on a pedestal is due to England’s switch from Catholicism to Protestantism under King Henry XIII. ("Graven images" a big no-no.) However, I do agree the plain design is all very dignified and fit for royalty!

Nevertheless, the medieval tomb of King John, buried when England was still a Catholic realm, is a sarcophagus a little closer in style to the ancient ones I was wondering about.

https://www.discoverworcestershire.co.u ... ohns-tomb/

[MaxPC]

Thanks for that, Max.

Best i can make out she's in an underground room (or "crypt") somewhere beneath that ledger stone. Her casket is probably sitting atop a pedestal, surrounded by flowers and covered by a cloth with royal insignia on it.

My guess is the "plain" design of the coffin on a pedestal is due to England’s switch from Catholicism to Protestantism under King Henry XIII. ("Graven images" a big no-no.) However, I do agree the plain design is all very dignified and fit for royalty!

Nevertheless, the medieval tomb of King John, buried when England was still a Catholic realm, is a sarcophagus a little closer in style to the ancient ones I was wondering about.

king-johns-tomb-side-view.jpg

https://www.discoverworcestershire.co.u ... ohns-tomb/

No, no room beneath the ledger stone. The caskets are buried with the stone overtop.

The elaborate tombs continued long after the monarchy became Protestant. Here is the sarcophagus/tomb of Queen Elizabeth I who was a Protestant (and anti-Catholic) queen. As you can see, an effigy of her is on the lid.


Tombs will change according to that which is in vogue. Queen Elizabeth II believed in keeping things simple even though tradition may require more elaborate protocols. Her favorite breakfast was Special K cereal with fruit and a cuppa of Earl Grey. She was thrifty and it is said that attitude was a result of having lived through the blitz of London and the rationing of food, both during and after WWII.

[Falco Underhill]

No, no room beneath the ledger stone. The caskets are buried with the stone overtop.

The elaborate tombs continued long after the monarchy became Protestant. Here is the sarcophagus/tomb of Queen Elizabeth I who was a Protestant (and anti-Catholic) queen. As you can see, an effigy of her is on the lid.


Tombs will change according to that which is in vogue. Queen Elizabeth II believed in keeping things simple even though tradition may require more elaborate protocols. Her favorite breakfast was Special K cereal with fruit and a cuppa of Earl Grey. She was thrifty and it is said that attitude was a result of having lived through the blitz of London and the rationing of food, both during and after WWII.

Okay, thanks. I guess that's what I get for guessing!

The Queen's tomb is quite elaborate. (I suppose I'm partial to modern "plain.")

Special K went back that far? What? No Fruit Loops?

[MaxPC]

No, no room beneath the ledger stone. The caskets are buried with the stone overtop.

The elaborate tombs continued long after the monarchy became Protestant. Here is the sarcophagus/tomb of Queen Elizabeth I who was a Protestant (and anti-Catholic) queen. As you can see, an effigy of her is on the lid.


Tombs will change according to that which is in vogue. Queen Elizabeth II believed in keeping things simple even though tradition may require more elaborate protocols. Her favorite breakfast was Special K cereal with fruit and a cuppa of Earl Grey. She was thrifty and it is said that attitude was a result of having lived through the blitz of London and the rationing of food, both during and after WWII.

Okay, thanks. I guess that's what I get for guessing!

The Queen's tomb is quite elaborate. (I suppose I'm partial to modern "plain.")

Special K went back that far? What? No Fruit Loops?

Special K has been around since the 1950s as I recall. Perhaps the 1940s. The UK SK is a bit sweeter in flavor. No Fruit Loops. Toasted Corn Flakes were around before that. Our family did not have that kind of money to spend on milk and cereals. It was either a roasted potato, the occasional eggs, or porridge (what the US calls oatmeal). Rationing was in place during wartime so that the troops could have enough to eat to fight Hitler.

Queen Elizabeth 1 did indeed have a tomb that reflected the era's elaborate send-offs of royalty. The more fancy, the more powerful was the thinking.

Queen Elizabeth 2 and her parents were all about frugality hence the more plain ledger stone.

[steve-in-kville]

Queen Elizabeth 2 and her parents were all about frugality hence the more plain ledger stone.

My wife had a great uncle that grew up during the Great Depression. He took frugality to levels that the younger generation would laugh at.

[temporal1]

My wife had a great uncle that grew up during the Great Depression.
He took frugality to levels that the younger generation would laugh at.

o.my.
it would be fun to have a FRUGALITY thread.
the things we experienced having Depression/War era parents+elders!

most forget TRASH BAGS weren’t in homes until later 1960’s.
(paying money to do nothing but throw it away?!)

“There’s Nothing Trashy about the History of Trash Bags”
https://www.aaapolymer.com/history-of-trash-bags/

The 1 thing about the 2008 bank crash was that it did a lot to return (esp yuppy-types) to measures of frugality.
Consumerism was off-the-charts. Suddenly, yuppies disappeared, frugality became hep.

My grdaughter was born in 2007. i saw my daughter connect with other young mothers becoming more conscientious, and even frugal in their lives+homes. i thought this was an improvement.

2022: Now, here we go again with the economy!

[MaxPC]

Queen Elizabeth 2 and her parents were all about frugality hence the more plain ledger stone.

My wife had a great uncle that grew up during the Great Depression. He took frugality to levels that the younger generation would laugh at.

Or be shocked by. I cannot ever imagine today's youth developing a taste for blood pudding.