Understanding Putin- Ukraine

Things that are not part of politics happening presently and how we approach or address it as Anabaptists.
Josh

Re: Understanding Putin- Ukraine

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No worry, Orthodox countries have a long and storied tradition of going to war with one another, complete with priests praying special blessings on their soldiers. There's a certain theatre of the absurd about it at all.
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temporal1

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Josh wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 9:06 am No worry, Orthodox countries have a long and storied tradition of going to war with one another, complete with priests praying special blessings on their soldiers. There's a certain theatre of the absurd about it at all.
War requires dehumanizing of opponents. No matter sides, it’s SOP. Religious wars could be epic.
Valerie:
.. Putin is VERY against the New World Order, Ukraine is on board with it.
Valerie,
you chose Current Events, i believe correct for your OP.
i’m not sure about all of Ukraine, but Zelensky embraces the Left West.

“the clue” (for me) that trouble with Russia was ahead was during 2014 Winter Olympics in Russia;
the media brouhaha over homosexuality, quickly followed by media brouhaha over Russia’s unfavorable policies for homosexual adoptions .. 2014 was in the middle of obama’s 2nd term in which he went blazing forward with rainbow-everything for the entire world.

if the NWO has a flag, it’s the rainbow. and they aren’t messin’ around. (they’ve since expanded colors+design, taking it from blasphemy of God’s created rainbow to the ugliest flag ever, a more fitting reflection.)

the western mainstream media, and politics, are replete with homosexuals, they abuse their pulpits for their carnal causes which they take personally, and specially, “special” being their claimed rightful place on earth. equal is not good enough, it’s got to be special, in practice, super-citizens. including via force of the sword.

sin is such a liar.
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Josh

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FYI this might be a better candidate for the "Politics" thread. Opinions surrounding this topic are inherently political.
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Szdfan

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temporal1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 9:44 am War requires dehumanizing of opponents. No matter sides, it’s SOP. Religious wars could be epic.
I think you dehumanize people with statements like this—
if the NWO has a flag, it’s the rainbow. and they aren’t messin’ around. (they’ve since expanded colors+design, taking it from blasphemy of God’s created rainbow to the ugliest flag ever, a more fitting reflection.)

the western mainstream media, and politics, are replete with homosexuals, they abuse their pulpits for their carnal causes which they take personally, and specially, “special” being their claimed rightful place on earth. equal is not good enough, it’s got to be special, in practice, super-citizens. including via force of the sword.
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Josh

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Szdfan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 3:20 pm
temporal1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 9:44 am War requires dehumanizing of opponents. No matter sides, it’s SOP. Religious wars could be epic.
I think you dehumanize people with statements like this—
if the NWO has a flag, it’s the rainbow. and they aren’t messin’ around. (they’ve since expanded colors+design, taking it from blasphemy of God’s created rainbow to the ugliest flag ever, a more fitting reflection.)

the western mainstream media, and politics, are replete with homosexuals, they abuse their pulpits for their carnal causes which they take personally, and specially, “special” being their claimed rightful place on earth. equal is not good enough, it’s got to be special, in practice, super-citizens. including via force of the sword.
temporal1 has not dehumanised anyone. The Bible makes it clear that sodomites, fornicators, and adulterers need to repent and turn away from their sin.

The “rainbow” flag celebrates deviant horrible sin, and even call itself “pride”, which is yet another sin.
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MaxPC

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Josh wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 3:22 pm
temporal1 has not dehumanised anyone. The Bible makes it clear that sodomites, fornicators, and adulterers need to repent and turn away from their sin.

The “rainbow” flag celebrates deviant horrible sin, and even call itself “pride”, which is yet another sin.
Spot on and amen.
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Franklin

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The conflict between Russia and the West is very simple - Russia represents God and the West represents Satan. That is why the conflict is so bitter.
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ohio jones

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Franklin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 11:44 am The conflict between Russia and the West is very simple - Russia represents God and the West represents Satan. That is why the conflict is so bitter.
Even simpler: Both sides represent Satan.
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Josh

Re: Understanding Putin- Ukraine

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Franklin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 11:44 am The conflict between Russia and the West is very simple - Russia represents God and the West represents Satan. That is why the conflict is so bitter.
Well, that's one way to look at it.
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temporal1

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ohio jones wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 11:57 am
Franklin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 11:44 am The conflict between Russia and the West is very simple - Russia represents God and the West represents Satan.
That is why the conflict is so bitter.
Even simpler: Both sides represent Satan.
Josh wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:21 pm
Franklin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 11:44 am
The conflict between Russia and the West is very simple - Russia represents God and the West represents Satan.
That is why the conflict is so bitter.
Well, that's one way to look at it. :mrgreen:
well, one side unapologetically embraces, protects, promotes evil.
the other exists in varying degrees of denial.

Franklin (i believe) you are correct about ongoing spiritual battles.
they aren’t perfectly contained+separated by national borders. each of us carries our part within whereever we go.
temporal1 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:38 am This is an excerpt: JLP ends with, “the ego death is hard.”

BOND (BROTHERHOOD ORGANIZATION OF A NEW DESTINY) / “Are You Afraid of Death? You've Been Manipulated with Words.”

Jesse Lee Peterson / The Fallen State
JLP: “the ego death is hard.”

.. i don’t understand or agree with everything JLP says.
but i appreciate his heart for Truth, his dedication to help, esp helping young men, their homes and communities. he speaks with sometimes abrupt confidence that “rattles cages.” :shock:

but, i believe his confidence is that he rests in scriptures, to the very best of his understanding. he tries to intends to live his faith. he challenges to vibrant, not lukewarm faith. i respect his heart for that, i believe his intent is pure, even when his understanding is imperfect. (we must face it, none of us understands perfectly.)

the Holy Spirit uses our imperfections for His perfect end. it’s God’s will and design.


Truth transcends.
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