https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelassenheit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordnung#Gelassenheit
Thanks for the response and links! Greattemporal1 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 2:38 pm As i recall, lesterb and Wayne in Maine (both deceased) discussed this from time to time.
Reviewing their posts, oldest to newest, might be helpful.
A search brought up 19+ matches, there are probably more that are older.
search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&keyw ... lassenheit
Also, check in Anabaptist Theology, i would search oldest to newest. fwiw.![]()
gameo.org
https://gameo.org/index.php?title=Gelassenheit
i believe it’s of interest. (notice, your topic already has 74+ views.) be patient waiting for responses.
You're welcome! and Thanks! I will look into that!Valerie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 5:24 pm Thank you for bringing ot up, one of my favorite messages ever was on this- and an excellent message on Gelassenheot is in this series: (actually) the whole series os good!
https://charitychristianfellowship.org/ ... nabaptism/
Specifically:
https://charitychristianfellowship.org/ ... surrender/
I am mot sure we are doing this well as the Church at large
If you would be so inclined, there are a number of aspects I would like to explore on this topic.Neto wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:12 am Some years ago I discussed this with an Amish business owner I do business with, and he called in one of his employees, who was also one of his ministers. I did some research later, and found that the text where this word occurs in the German text does not use the Dutch counterpart in the Dutch Bible. (I am Dutch Mennonite.) Dutch has the word gelatenheid, but the Scripture text uses another word instead - leijdzaamheid.
Recently, in a gathering with her Amish relatives (the women) they were discussing the idea expressed in the PA German, as "gelossa" - letting go. This idea is also commonly expressed in the English phrase as "Let go, and let God." (At least it sounds like the same thing to me.) I think that Plautdeitsch might express this same meaning as "yalottenheid", which would mean something like "putting or letting down".
I think that we also need to practice this 'surrender' in relationships with others, especially in the sense of letting go of an offense against us, perhaps a slight, or an imposition on our "rights", releasing that feeling of "righteous indignation" when taken advantage of, or otherwise disregarded.