Ministering to People With Unwanted Pregnancies

[temporal1]

.. My position is that helping them is a more effective approach than shaming them. ..

It isn’t one or the other.

The reality is, there are many sophisticated effective established options for “Ministering to People With Unwanted Pregnancies” -
the real world is not stuck in .. 1900. (In addition to history’s #1 go-to responders: families, friends.) There’s no need to reinvent the wheel. Make use of it, expand on it, improve it. But no need to think this is something that’s never been addressed.

Unfortunately, too many people seem to be so reliant on the NYT, et al., if they don’t see it featured there, it doesn’t exist.
FALSE. The inordinate influence of the NYT is dismal.

It appears many could benefit from expanded horizons.

I am grateful to the Lord that this has been decided.
Here is the Supreme Court pdf copy of the full decision in 19-1392 Dobbs v. Jackson.

In truth, has any group of Christians dedicated more effort to this, in every practical hands-on way, than Catholics?
Pro life, pro traditional family. (With the exceptions of those elected to high political office.)

Save the Storks
Take my hand, not my life
March for Life
Priests for Life
Lifesitenews
Lila Rose
Matt Walsh
David Daleidon
Crisis Pregnancy Centers (concept, i think)
Catholic adoptions
Marriage retreats

There are more i can’t place at the moment, i expect there are more, still.

more, not Catholic alone:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_a ... ted_States

SCOTUS is obligated to rule based on the Constitution, not popular opinion.
Still, without a case to rule on, they don’t rule. they don’t “rule out of nowhere.”

The Cloud of Witnesses - The MennoNet Wall
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.. please correct if+where incorrect or incomplete. i’m still reeling from this news. it’s big news.
but not the end of need for work and prayers for .. life on earth.

Safe Haven Baby Boxes
https://shbb.org/

[Josh]

As for your gun analogy. It isn't a particularly relevant analogy for women who are already pregnant. That "gun" has already gone off. The more relevant parallel to guns would be a ministry focused on convincing young single men to keep their pants zipped up, their "gun" put away, and to stay celibate. Maybe that should be your focus instead if your ministry concern is fornication and not abortion.

It would be correct that most of my focus is there (although it's interesting you seem to think men should be very responsible for unwanted pregnancies, but don't want to place the same responsibility on women).

[Ken]

As for your gun analogy. It isn't a particularly relevant analogy for women who are already pregnant. That "gun" has already gone off. The more relevant parallel to guns would be a ministry focused on convincing young single men to keep their pants zipped up, their "gun" put away, and to stay celibate. Maybe that should be your focus instead if your ministry concern is fornication and not abortion.

It would be correct that most of my focus is there (although it's interesting you seem to think men should be very responsible for unwanted pregnancies, but don't want to place the same responsibility on women).

I've been working around teenagers long enough to know that it generally takes two to tango. But following with your gun analogy it is the guys who have the guns so to speak and the ones who tend to be more aggressive about fornication. So if you want to cut back on teenage fornication then your bigger bang for the buck is to focus on the guys. If a guy decides to keep his pants zipped then not much is going to happen no matter how aggressive the girl is. The opposite is not true.

[justme]

justme,

How exactly do you propose that I convince certain men to stop being murderers, muggers, burglars, and rapists?

well, you seem to have the answer to every other question, so i would suggest you are capable of figuring it out.

[justme]

I’m much more interested in folks taking responsibility for the consequences of their choices moving forward than I’m assigning blame for past sins…

i think the above is a good statement.

2 things bossman taught me. (that's what i called the als coordinator, when i was the assistant coordinator)
bossman said, #1. is this a system problem or breakdown or is it "your fault"?
#2. how can we fix this?

[Josh]

justme,

How exactly do you propose that I convince certain men to stop being murderers, muggers, burglars, and rapists?

well, you seem to have the answer to every other question, so i would suggest you are capable of figuring it out.

You seem to want to somehow have a system where women can safely spend time alone with a man who has decided he will engage in sexual assaults. I don’t see any way this can be “safe” other than such women arming themselves.

[AnthonyMartin]

I’m much more interested in folks taking responsibility for the consequences of their choices moving forward than I’m assigning blame for past sins…

i think the above is a good statement.

2 things bossman taught me. (that's what i called the als coordinator, when i was the assistant coordinator)
bossman said, #1. is this a system problem or breakdown or is it "your fault"?
#2. how can we fix this?

I like that guide. By ALS Coordinator you mean (Advanced Life Support)?

[justme]

I’m much more interested in folks taking responsibility for the consequences of their choices moving forward than I’m assigning blame for past sins…

i think the above is a good statement.

2 things bossman taught me. (that's what i called the als coordinator, when i was the assistant coordinator)
bossman said, #1. is this a system problem or breakdown or is it "your fault"?
#2. how can we fix this?

I like that guide. By ALS Coordinator you mean (Advanced Life Support)?

yes. He taught me a lot. Some things i should have listened to him but i was too stubborn at the time.

[AnthonyMartin]

i think the above is a good statement.

2 things bossman taught me. (that's what i called the als coordinator, when i was the assistant coordinator)
bossman said, #1. is this a system problem or breakdown or is it "your fault"?
#2. how can we fix this?

I like that guide. By ALS Coordinator you mean (Advanced Life Support)?

yes. He taught me a lot. Some things i should have listened to him but i was too stubborn at the time.

Fascinating. I’m trying to hire a good EMS educator, paramedic or RN. I’m director of an EMS agency that does Critical Care, ALS, BLS, Paratransit, and a health system transfer center. I could use someone with that type of attitude. Know anyone like that looking?

[justme]

I'll message you this evening.