mike wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:01 pm
I think this midterm will be really consequential in that it will show whether the polling is accurate that supposedly shows the majority of Americans favor Roe V. Wade. Many state elections will now matter more than they did before. I think that Democrats feel that, with all the headwinds they currently have, this may finally be a winning issue for the fall.
We'll see.
I think this decision kicks it back to the states, and individual states will respond differently.
I'm very glad to see Roe overturned. But I think we Christians need to do better if we want to win hearts and minds on this issue. And that means making sure people see us as loving and caring to both single mothers and their children.
Bootstrap wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:52 pm
I'm very glad to see Roe overturned. But I think we Christians need to do better if we want to win hearts and minds on this issue. And that means making sure people see us as loving and caring to both single mothers and their children.
I think this decision kicks it back to the states, and individual states will respond differently.
I'm very glad to see Roe overturned. But I think we Christians need to do better if we want to win hearts and minds on this issue. And that means making sure people see us as loving and caring to both single mothers and their children.
I would agree.
I would also be concerned we will see a bigger backlash to Christianity over this issue. Other issues are present too and ultimately we cannot legislate righteousness.
mike wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:09 pm
What are the chances Congress could legislatively make abortion legal on the federal level?
I haven't read the decision carefully, but I think the introduction implies this is up to the states:
For the first 185 years after the adoption of the Constitution, each State was permitted to address this issue in accordance with the views of its citizens. Then, in 1973, this Court decided Roe v. Wade. Even though the Constitution makes no mention of abortion, the Court held that it confers a broad right to obtain one.
But the actual decision does not exclude that possibility:
It is time to heed the Constitution and return the issue of abortion to the people’s elected representatives. “The permissibility of abortion, and the limitations, upon it, are to be resolved like most important questions in our democracy: by citizens trying to persuade one another and then voting.” Casey, 505 U.S., at 979 (Scalia, J., concurring in judgment in part and dissenting in part). That is what the Constitution and the rule of law demand.
Regardless, I think the votes just aren't there for a federal ban:
Bootstrap wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:16 pm
Regardless, I think the votes just aren't there for a federal ban:
The Pew Research Center recently reported that 61 percent of Americans believe abortion should be legal in all or most circumstances — though many are open to restrictions — while 37 percent believe it should be illegal in all or most circumstances.
Yes, I am sure they aren't, but my question was whether there would be enough votes there for a federal legalization of abortion. If it is true that the majority of the public wants abortion to be legal, then it stands to reason that the a similar percentage of the people's elected representatives would feel the same way. If not, why not?
“The permissibility of abortion, and the limitations, upon it, are to be resolved like most important questions in our democracy: by citizens trying to persuade one another and then voting.” Casey, 505 U.S., at 979
The underlined is probably an understated description of what will happen in the country for the rest of this year.
