Vaccine Mandates a Slippery Slope towards the Surveillance State and Mark of the Beast

[Falco Underhill]

Here's the international COP26 Declaration on accelerating the transition to 100% zero emission cars and vans by the year 2040!

See how many nations, regions and automotive industries have signed onto it.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... s-and-vans

Read about the outcomes of the COP 26 agreement here —

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/wh ... conference.

[nett]

Here's the international COP26 Declaration on accelerating the transition to 100% zero emission cars and vans by the year 2040!

See how many nations, regions and automotive industries have signed onto it.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... s-and-vans

Read about the outcomes of the COP 26 agreement here —

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/wh ... conference.

2040 is absurdly aggressive.

See Sri Lanka for what happens when well-intentioned environmental action is undertaken too quickly.

hint: they ran out of food.

[Josh]

And now Sri Lanka is pursuing Russia Friendship Plan; the Russians are sending tankers of oil and ships loaded down with grain.

[Falco Underhill]

Here's the international COP26 Declaration on accelerating the transition to 100% zero emission cars and vans by the year 2040!

See how many nations, regions and automotive industries have signed onto it.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... s-and-vans

Read about the outcomes of the COP 26 agreement here —

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/wh ... conference.

2040 is absurdly aggressive.

See Sri Lanka for what happens when well-intentioned environmental action is undertaken too quickly.

hint: they ran out of food.

Probably why the U.S., China and Germany did not sign it. The U.K. had already pledged to an even more ambitious goal of 2030 but then signed on to this one, anyway.

[Ken]

Here's the international COP26 Declaration on accelerating the transition to 100% zero emission cars and vans by the year 2040!

See how many nations, regions and automotive industries have signed onto it.

Europe is addicted to Russian and middle east fossil fuels
China, Australia, and India are addicted to coal
The middle east and north Africa are completely dependent on petro dollars.
And North America is completely under the thumb of the fossil fuel industry. The US because of development patterns and because the fossil fuel industry has a strangle-hold on the Senate. Canada because Alberta has a veto power on national politics. And Mexico because their nation is funded by petro dollars.
And the entire planet's supply chains are utterly dependent on trans-oceanic shipping.

I think the chances are about a billion to one that we do far too little and the planet burns, than we do too much and get anywhere close to zero carbon within a generation no matter what feel-good non-binding measures got signed at the last climate accords. As if that were even a bad thing.

[nett]

Here's the international COP26 Declaration on accelerating the transition to 100% zero emission cars and vans by the year 2040!

See how many nations, regions and automotive industries have signed onto it.

Europe is addicted to Russian and middle east fossil fuels
China, Australia, and India are addicted to coal
The middle east and north Africa are completely dependent on petro dollars.
And North America is completely under the thumb of the fossil fuel industry. The US because of development patterns and because the fossil fuel industry has a strangle-hold on the Senate. Canada because Alberta has a veto power on national politics. And Mexico because their nation is funded by petro dollars.
And the entire planet's supply chains are utterly dependent on trans-oceanic shipping.

I think the chances are about a billion to one that we do far too little and the planet burns, than we do too much and get anywhere close to zero carbon within a generation no matter what feel-good non-binding measures got signed at the last climate accords. As if that were even a bad thing.

Small point of clarification. It is completely possible for people to grow their own food, even at current population levels. It just involves a lot of work.

[Ken]

Here's the international COP26 Declaration on accelerating the transition to 100% zero emission cars and vans by the year 2040!

See how many nations, regions and automotive industries have signed onto it.

Europe is addicted to Russian and middle east fossil fuels
China, Australia, and India are addicted to coal
The middle east and north Africa are completely dependent on petro dollars.
And North America is completely under the thumb of the fossil fuel industry. The US because of development patterns and because the fossil fuel industry has a strangle-hold on the Senate. Canada because Alberta has a veto power on national politics. And Mexico because their nation is funded by petro dollars.
And the entire planet's supply chains are utterly dependent on trans-oceanic shipping.

I think the chances are about a billion to one that we do far too little and the planet burns, than we do too much and get anywhere close to zero carbon within a generation no matter what feel-good non-binding measures got signed at the last climate accords. As if that were even a bad thing.

Small point of clarification. It is completely possible for people to grow their own food, even at current population levels. It just involves a lot of work.

Growing some vegetables is not hard. Growing fruits, grains and protein in small urban places isn't very realistic. Here is an experienced gardener who tested the notion of being food self-sufficient on 1/4 acre (which is far more space than most urban dwellers have). And still came up way short: https://www.theseasonalhomestead.com/th ... er-acre-1/

Food self-sufficiency on one acre in a good growing climate is probably more realistic. But then you aren't talking about urban living anymore, but very exurban fringe.

We have a smaller yard and I have a couple of raised beds and mostly grow tomatoes, peppers, squash, cucumbers, and herbs because those are the biggest bang for the buck and the most superior to store-bought. But we don't remotely come close to self-sufficiency even for just those things. I do like the idea of buying local and using farmer's markets rather than foods imported from Mexico, South America, or China. Which is fairly easy to do here in the Pacific Northwest do to the diversity of local agriculture and fisheries. But as long as we want fresh foods out of season we are going to be getting fruits and vegetables from places like Chile and New Zealand.

One thing I found bizarrely weird. When I was working in fisheries management in Alaska it was common in the cod fishery for fishing boats to offload their headed and gutted frozen cod to cold storage freighters that would ship it to China where it would be thawed and processed into breaded fillets for fish sticks, fish sandwiches, fish and chips, etc. then repackaged and refrozen and shipped back to the US and Europe for retail sale. That is a very circuitous route for a piece of cod to take just to reach market. Literally around the entire globe.

[nett]

Europe is addicted to Russian and middle east fossil fuels
China, Australia, and India are addicted to coal
The middle east and north Africa are completely dependent on petro dollars.
And North America is completely under the thumb of the fossil fuel industry. The US because of development patterns and because the fossil fuel industry has a strangle-hold on the Senate. Canada because Alberta has a veto power on national politics. And Mexico because their nation is funded by petro dollars.
And the entire planet's supply chains are utterly dependent on trans-oceanic shipping.

I think the chances are about a billion to one that we do far too little and the planet burns, than we do too much and get anywhere close to zero carbon within a generation no matter what feel-good non-binding measures got signed at the last climate accords. As if that were even a bad thing.

Small point of clarification. It is completely possible for people to grow their own food, even at current population levels. It just involves a lot of work.

Growing some vegetables is not hard. Growing fruits, grains and protein in small urban places isn't very realistic. Here is an experienced gardener who tested the notion of being food self-sufficient on 1/4 acre (which is far more space than most urban dwellers have). And still came up way short: https://www.theseasonalhomestead.com/th ... er-acre-1/

Food self-sufficiency on one acre in a good growing climate is probably more realistic. But then you aren't talking about urban living anymore, but very exurban fringe.

We have a smaller yard and I have a couple of raised beds and mostly grow tomatoes, peppers, squash, cucumbers, and herbs because those are the biggest bang for the buck and the most superior to store-bought. But we don't remotely come close to self-sufficiency even for just those things. I do like the idea of buying local and using farmer's markets rather than foods imported from Mexico, South America, or China. Which is fairly easy to do here in the Pacific Northwest do to the diversity of local agriculture and fisheries. But as long as we want fresh foods out of season we are going to be getting fruits and vegetables from places like Chile and New Zealand.

One thing I found bizarrely weird. When I was working in fisheries management in Alaska it was common in the cod fishery for fishing boats to offload their headed and gutted frozen cod to cold storage freighters that would ship it to China where it would be thawed and processed into breaded fillets for fish sticks, fish sandwiches, fish and chips, etc. then repackaged and refrozen and shipped back to the US and Europe for retail sale. That is a very circuitous route for a piece of cod to take just to reach market. Literally around the entire globe.

Russia proved with Dacha gardens that it's possible for even urban people to become self-sufficient when the state becomes sufficiently dysfunctional.

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[Ken]

Russia proved with Dacha gardens that it's possible for even urban people to become self-sufficient when the state becomes sufficiently dysfunctional.

I'm not sure how we got onto this topic. But Russia has vast amounts of empty space and rural countryside. And what you are calling "Dacha gardens" were not urban gardens in the middle of the city. Such as people growing vegetables on the 6th floor balcony of their apartment flat. They were private small-scale rural farms that fell outside of the communist system of large collective state agriculture. So essentially just rural small-scale commercial agriculture. And even then we are talking about mostly just fruits and vegetables, not grains, meats/fish protein, and dairy which are really the staple calories consumed by most people.

I'm all in favor of growing one's own food and being sustainable. But commercial agriculture in whatever form is really necessary to feed large urban populations. It has been so since Biblical times when Egyptian grain fed Rome and crops from the Galilee and Jordan River Valley as well as fish from the Sea of Galilee and Mediterranean fed Jerusalem.