Importance of a High School Diploma/GED

[Josh]

… press charges against job applicants I suspect have fake resumes?

Ken, do you live in the real world?

[Ken]

… press charges against job applicants I suspect have fake resumes?

Ken, do you live in the real world?

I live in a world in which there are actual people currently serving time for fraudulently presenting credentials that they did not have. Is that common? No, of course not. But it is an actual crime in many states regardless of how often it might be prosecuted. And many job applications have signature lines in which the applicant is attesting to the truthfulness of all the information contained within. So any lie on such a job application that you have signed (about education, criminal history, job history, or even your name and social security number) would constitute fraud.

[Josh]

… press charges against job applicants I suspect have fake resumes?

Ken, do you live in the real world?

I live in a world in which there are actual people currently serving time for fraudulently presenting credentials that they did not have. Is that common? No, of course not. But it is an actual crime in many states regardless of how often it might be prosecuted. And many job applications have signature lines in which the applicant is attesting to the truthfulness of all the information contained within. So any lie on such a job application that you have signed (about education, criminal history, job history, or even your name and social security number) would constitute fraud.

And I’ll repeat what myself and Soloist have said: nobody ever bothered to verify our credentials, and I’ve seen boatloads of fake credentials and resumes in my career.

Attempting to “press charges” against those who turned in false resumes and fake degrees probably would have made me run afoul of EEO guidelines.

[Ken]

… press charges against job applicants I suspect have fake resumes?

Ken, do you live in the real world?

I live in a world in which there are actual people currently serving time for fraudulently presenting credentials that they did not have. Is that common? No, of course not. But it is an actual crime in many states regardless of how often it might be prosecuted. And many job applications have signature lines in which the applicant is attesting to the truthfulness of all the information contained within. So any lie on such a job application that you have signed (about education, criminal history, job history, or even your name and social security number) would constitute fraud.

And I’ll repeat what myself and Soloist have said: nobody ever bothered to verify our credentials, and I’ve seen boatloads of fake credentials and resumes in my career.

Attempting to “press charges” against those who turned in false resumes and fake degrees probably would have made me run afoul of EEO guidelines.

If Soloist has a nursing license in any state then he has most definitely had his credentials verified.

[QuietlyListening]

I don't know how states approach things these days but over 45 years ago I could not sit for boards without transcripts from my college that I had graduated from a certified nursing program. Trying to remember if I needed to have my transcripts sent to get a license in another state but do believe I needed to- along with verification from original state of licensure to get an RN license. Things have changed since then so I don't know what is required now but I definitely had to have college transcripts sent to the state board.

[Ken]

I don't know how states approach things these days but over 45 years ago I could not sit for boards without transcripts from my college that I had graduated from a certified nursing program. Trying to remember if I needed to have my transcripts sent to get a license in another state but do believe I needed to- along with verification from original state of licensure to get an RN license. Things have changed since then so I don't know what is required now but I definitely had to have college transcripts sent to the state board.

The only change is that it is now all digital. I went through it all twice for a teaching license which is similar. My wife has gone through it three times for her medical license in 3 different states. You go to the the web sites for all the schools and universities that you attended. Pay the $5 official transcript fee through Parchment which is the service that most of them use. And type in the name and address of the licensing board you want the transcript sent to and an official .pdf of your transcripts is sent directly from the school to the state licensing board. Or sometimes they send a secure download link for the licensing board to retrieve it directly.

Some states have reciprocal license transfer agreements which reduces the amount of paperwork if you are transferring a license from one state to another. But they still want all the documents.

[Soloist]

I most definitely provided proof of my license and they did verify it. They didn't care at all about my transcripts or my high school diploma.

[Ken]

I most definitely provided proof of my license and they did verify it. They didn't care at all about my transcripts or my high school diploma.

Right. You had to do all of that to get the license in the first place. Probably not your HS diploma, but most certainly your nursing education and credentials.

[Josh]

I most definitely provided proof of my license and they did verify it. They didn't care at all about my transcripts or my high school diploma.

Right. You had to do all of that to get the license in the first place. Probably not your HS diploma, but most certainly your nursing education and credentials.

The topic of this thread is "Importance of a High School Diploma/GED".

And as we keep telling you, nobody verifies that! You keep insisting that someone who faked a high school diploma (which is a most laughable idea to even think about) will immediately get prosecuted after being turned in by vigilant employers, nursing boards, college admissions offices, etc. who are just chomping at the bit to catch that high school dropout.

Can you actually find a case of a high school dropout getting prosecuted because they claimed they had an HS diploma when they didn't?

[Ken]

I most definitely provided proof of my license and they did verify it. They didn't care at all about my transcripts or my high school diploma.

Right. You had to do all of that to get the license in the first place. Probably not your HS diploma, but most certainly your nursing education and credentials.

The topic of this thread is "Importance of a High School Diploma/GED".

And as we keep telling you, nobody verifies that! You keep insisting that someone who faked a high school diploma (which is a most laughable idea to even think about) will immediately get prosecuted after being turned in by vigilant employers, nursing boards, college admissions offices, etc. who are just chomping at the bit to catch that high school dropout.

Can you actually find a case of a high school dropout getting prosecuted because they claimed they had an HS diploma when they didn't?

Josh, like most threads on this forum, the discussion has strayed far beyond the original subject line. This particular discussion sub thread was started by Temporal1 who noted that she was encouraged to lie about her COLLEGE credentials.

I'm not sure why you are so invested in making the claim that lying about your educational credentials is either: (1) acceptable or (2) without potential consequences when clearly neither is the case.

As for lying specifically about your HS education? Try doing that on a military enlistment application. Lying at when you fill out enlistment applications is punishable by a $10,000 fine and 5 years in prison. They have signs and posters at all recruiting locations to remind applicants of that fact.