There are a lot of things being said by authorities here in Canada which are misleading at best. It does not inspire confidence.
Coronavirus Outbreak
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silentreader
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https://www.foxnews.com/health/almost-h ... e-covid-19
New York Gov. Kathy Hochul released data Friday breaking down COVID-19 hospitalizations by those who were admitted due to the virus and those who were admitted for other reasons but were found to have the illness.
Included in the data was a chart showing "how many hospitalized individuals who have tested positive for COVID-19 were admitted for COVID-19/COVID-19 complications and how many were admitted for non-COVID-19 conditions."
According to the provided statistics, in approximately 43% of hospital admissions "COVID was not included as one of the reasons for admission."
Such cases totaled 4,928 as of Jan. 7, compared to 6,620 patients "admitted due to COVID or complications of COVID."
According to the same data set, a staggering 51% of COVID-19 hospitalizations in New York City were not due to COVID-19 or related symptoms. The numbers show that 3,060 patients were hospitalized for reasons other than COVID-19, while only 2,992 were admitted due to the illness.
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GaryK
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What's behind this recent way of counting Covid hospitalizations? Has it always been like this?Robert wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:15 am https://www.foxnews.com/health/almost-h ... e-covid-19
New York Gov. Kathy Hochul released data Friday breaking down COVID-19 hospitalizations by those who were admitted due to the virus and those who were admitted for other reasons but were found to have the illness.
Included in the data was a chart showing "how many hospitalized individuals who have tested positive for COVID-19 were admitted for COVID-19/COVID-19 complications and how many were admitted for non-COVID-19 conditions."
According to the provided statistics, in approximately 43% of hospital admissions "COVID was not included as one of the reasons for admission."
Such cases totaled 4,928 as of Jan. 7, compared to 6,620 patients "admitted due to COVID or complications of COVID."
According to the same data set, a staggering 51% of COVID-19 hospitalizations in New York City were not due to COVID-19 or related symptoms. The numbers show that 3,060 patients were hospitalized for reasons other than COVID-19, while only 2,992 were admitted due to the illness.
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Josh
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J. Sotamayor also claimed covid is a “blood borne illness”.
I do not think such a person should be deciding whether or not all of us are forced to get the vaccines to be allowed to have a job.
I do not think such a person should be deciding whether or not all of us are forced to get the vaccines to be allowed to have a job.
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Soloist
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Its only been recently that the argument has shifted towards hospitalizations and ICU rather then simply preventing infection/transmission>>preventing symptomatic cases>>preventing hospitalizations...GaryK wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:25 amWhat's behind this recent way of counting Covid hospitalizations? Has it always been like this?Robert wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:15 am https://www.foxnews.com/health/almost-h ... e-covid-19
New York Gov. Kathy Hochul released data Friday breaking down COVID-19 hospitalizations by those who were admitted due to the virus and those who were admitted for other reasons but were found to have the illness.
Included in the data was a chart showing "how many hospitalized individuals who have tested positive for COVID-19 were admitted for COVID-19/COVID-19 complications and how many were admitted for non-COVID-19 conditions."
According to the provided statistics, in approximately 43% of hospital admissions "COVID was not included as one of the reasons for admission."
Such cases totaled 4,928 as of Jan. 7, compared to 6,620 patients "admitted due to COVID or complications of COVID."
According to the same data set, a staggering 51% of COVID-19 hospitalizations in New York City were not due to COVID-19 or related symptoms. The numbers show that 3,060 patients were hospitalized for reasons other than COVID-19, while only 2,992 were admitted due to the illness.
The counts early on were inflated due to people dying with covid rather then from covid and now due to vaccine politics, they are starting to shift the reports at least for vaccinated.
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Ken
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She did nothing of the sort. Look up the actual quote.
She noted that OSHA already regulates employee safety and procedures related to blood borne viruses like HIV, and Hep C and has done so since 1991. And she asked why should Covid be any different?
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A fool can throw out more questions than a wise man can answer. -RZehr
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I could take it either way in the context of the original quotes. Sotamayor got almost every wrong regarding the COVID facts that both sides agree on. Why are you defending her? Do you really think someone as clearly misinformed as she should be making making judicial activist decisions?
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Josh
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As a Supreme Court justice, she shouldn’t be inserting her own opinion about such facts as all, like claiming 100,000 children are on ventilators.
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Ken
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She was asking why OSHA doesn't have the authority to regulate and impose workplace heath-related mandates for Covid when they have been doing it for 30 years for other types of viruses. The oral language was perhaps a little sloppy as it is a transcription from an oral question where we don't have the actual inflection and oral punctuation to help clarify. But it is clear from the context that is what she was asking. And it is a perfectly legitimate question. I'm not sure what you think she is misinformed about. OSHA has indeed been imposing strict workplace requirements for blood borne viruses for years. I have to go through blood borne pathogen training every single year on my job as part of OSHA workplace requirements. I'm not aware that anyone has ever questioned their authority to do so. What is different about Covid?nett wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:58 pmI could take it either way in the context of the original quotes. Sotamayor got almost every wrong regarding the COVID facts that both sides agree on. Why are you defending her? Do you really think someone as clearly misinformed as she should be making making judicial activist decisions?
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Soloist
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No one has been subject to testing for any of those diseases nor required to be vaccinated outside of specific jobs such as childcare or hospitals. OSHA requires that testing is offered for exposure risks.Ken wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:35 pmShe was asking why OSHA doesn't have the authority to regulate and impose workplace heath-related mandates for Covid when they have been doing it for 30 years for other types of viruses. The oral language was perhaps a little sloppy as it is a transcription from an oral question where we don't have the actual inflection and oral punctuation to help clarify. But it is clear from the context that is what she was asking. And it is a perfectly legitimate question. I'm not sure what you think she is misinformed about. OSHA has indeed been imposing strict workplace requirements for blood borne viruses for years. I have to go through blood borne pathogen training every single year on my job as part of OSHA workplace requirements. I'm not aware that anyone has ever questioned their authority to do so. What is different about Covid?nett wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:58 pmI could take it either way in the context of the original quotes. Sotamayor got almost every wrong regarding the COVID facts that both sides agree on. Why are you defending her? Do you really think someone as clearly misinformed as she should be making making judicial activist decisions?
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