Anabaptism and the 1st Amendment

[temporal1]

Found this:

“Watch now: Heavenly phone calls, fashion advice as Millikin students graduate”
https://herald-review.com/news/local/ed ... f3c85.html

It appears, Rev Carlson did not speak about dress. Pastors know better!
It was a couple of young alumni, who now own a retail shop in Chicago. (Their advice had nothing to do with modesty.)
https://www.blvdier.com/

[Chris]

As a Christian, the 1st Amendment is irrelevant to me. I will practice my faith no matter what, free or oppressed.

[Robert]

As a Christian, the 1st Amendment is irrelevant to me. I will practice my faith no matter what, free or oppressed.

The 1st Amendment just guarantees we will not have negative consequences from our expression of speech, press, or religion. The Constitution states these rights are given by the Creator, not the state. The state can not punish a person for using them because of the 1st Amendment.

This means we really have no reason to be the silent in the land, as we had to be other places.

[Ken]

As a Christian, the 1st Amendment is irrelevant to me. I will practice my faith no matter what, free or oppressed.

The 1st Amendment just guarantees we will not have negative consequences from our expression of speech, press, or religion. The Constitution states these rights are given by the Creator, not the state. The state can not punish a person for using them because of the 1st Amendment.

This means we really have no reason to be the silent in the land, as we had to be other places.

Also most Anabaptists of European ancestry had forefathers who immigrated here in part due assurances of religious freedom. Either the guarantees provided by the Constitution if they came after 1789. Or earlier colonial guarantees of religious freedom such as William Penn's "Charter of Privileges" issued in 1701 that guaranteed similar rights of religious freedom in the Pennsylvania Colony.

There are reasons why our ancestors chose North America and not similar new world colonies like say Brazil or Argentina, which did not have separation of church and state or freedom of religion. It isn't coincidence that PA and OH are among the historic centers of Anabaptism, as well as similar places like Ontario.

[Neto]

It isn't coincidence that PA and OH are among the historic centers of Anabaptism, as well as similar places like Ontario.

For the early PlautDietsch immigrants, it would be Hillsboro, Kansas. (There's a story - "legend"? - that some of the immigrants from Russia, as they came into New York harbor, some one said, "If New York City is that big, what must Hlilsboro be like?" OK, so probably very few on here have ever seen Hillsboro. Let's just say that when Hillsboro College is in session, the population about doubles. At least it was that way in the 70's.)

[Ken]

It isn't coincidence that PA and OH are among the historic centers of Anabaptism, as well as similar places like Ontario.

For the early PlautDietsch immigrants, it would be Hillsboro, Kansas. (There's a story - "legend"? - that some of the immigrants from Russia, as they came into New York harbor, some one said, "If New York City is that big, what must Hlilsboro be like?" OK, so probably very few on here have ever seen Hillsboro. Let's just say that when Hillsboro College is in session, the population about doubles. At least it was that way in the 70's.)

Well yes, by the time a lot of them came in the late 19th Century the eastern states like PA and OH were pretty filled up and developed and farms would have been expensive. Harder still to build an entire community from scratch. By then you had to go all the way to Kansas or Nebraska to find cheap undeveloped land under the Homestead Act where poor immigrants could build up their own communities. A century makes a lot of difference.

But still, I'm guessing that guarantees of religious freedom played no small part in their decision to seek out land in the US as opposed to other countries around the globe.

[Robert]

It isn't coincidence that PA and OH are among the historic centers of Anabaptism, as well as similar places like Ontario.

For the early PlautDietsch immigrants, it would be Hillsboro, Kansas. (There's a story - "legend"? - that some of the immigrants from Russia, as they came into New York harbor, some one said, "If New York City is that big, what must Hlilsboro be like?" OK, so probably very few on here have ever seen Hillsboro. Let's just say that when Hillsboro College is in session, the population about doubles. At least it was that way in the 70's.)

From what I remember, the Hillsboro (GC) Mennonites came through the west from Russia, not through New York.

[Ken]

It isn't coincidence that PA and OH are among the historic centers of Anabaptism, as well as similar places like Ontario.

For the early PlautDietsch immigrants, it would be Hillsboro, Kansas. (There's a story - "legend"? - that some of the immigrants from Russia, as they came into New York harbor, some one said, "If New York City is that big, what must Hlilsboro be like?" OK, so probably very few on here have ever seen Hillsboro. Let's just say that when Hillsboro College is in session, the population about doubles. At least it was that way in the 70's.)

From what I remember, the Hillsboro (GC) Mennonites came through the west from Russia, not through New York.

I don't know specifically about the Mennonites, but a lot of the eastern European immigrants to the southern plains came through Galveston. It was a major immigrant entry port during that time because it was the southern terminus of the Atchison, Topeka, and Santa Fe Railroad so provided easy access into the plains.

[Neto]

It isn't coincidence that PA and OH are among the historic centers of Anabaptism, as well as similar places like Ontario.

For the early PlautDietsch immigrants, it would be Hillsboro, Kansas. (There's a story - "legend"? - that some of the immigrants from Russia, as they came into New York harbor, some one said, "If New York City is that big, what must Hlilsboro be like?" OK, so probably very few on here have ever seen Hillsboro. Let's just say that when Hillsboro College is in session, the population about doubles. At least it was that way in the 70's.)

From what I remember, the Hillsboro (GC) Mennonites came through the west from Russia, not through New York.

Somewhere I think I have the names of the different ships, port of entry, and arrival dates of my ancestors. I know that at least one of them came through New York, because one of my relatives died just before arrival, and the family hid his body in their luggage and buried him along the beach someplace after they got ashore. (Sounds far-fetched, I know, but at least that's the story I always heard.)

[Chris]

As a Christian, the 1st Amendment is irrelevant to me. I will practice my faith no matter what, free or oppressed.

The 1st Amendment just guarantees we will not have negative consequences from our expression of speech, press, or religion. The Constitution states these rights are given by the Creator, not the state. The state can not punish a person for using them because of the 1st Amendment.

This means we really have no reason to be the silent in the land, as we had to be other places.

Also most Anabaptists of European ancestry had forefathers who immigrated here in part due assurances of religious freedom. Either the guarantees provided by the Constitution if they came after 1789. Or earlier colonial guarantees of religious freedom such as William Penn's "Charter of Privileges" issued in 1701 that guaranteed similar rights of religious freedom in the Pennsylvania Colony.

There are reasons why our ancestors chose North America and not similar new world colonies like say Brazil or Argentina, which did not have separation of church and state or freedom of religion. It isn't coincidence that PA and OH are among the historic centers of Anabaptism, as well as similar places like Ontario.

The consequences do not matter. Jesus gave a great commission to us. The constitution can say whatever it wants. My master told me to do something and I will, free or oppressed.

If I'm in a free land, I will preach and witness for him. If I'm in North Korea, I will preach and witness for him.