Russ Douthat on Critical Race Theory

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Szdfan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:33 am This morning, I taught the Langston Hughes's poem, "I, Too" for an exercise on voice.
I, too, sing America.

I am the darker brother.
They send me to eat in the kitchen
When company comes,
But I laugh,
And eat well,
And grow strong.

Tomorrow,
I’ll be at the table
When company comes.
Nobody’ll dare
Say to me,
“Eat in the kitchen,”
Then.

Besides,
They’ll see how beautiful I am
And be ashamed—

I, too, am America.
I think that this poem encapulates what Boot is driving at. Part of the fight over this is the question over which story of America gets told and taught in the schools. In the past, "America" was understood as being one thing -- a narrative about liberty and freedom. The historical truth is a lot more complicated and difficult -- liberty and freedom in America has always been incomplete.

I think what Hughes is saying in a rather gentle way is that his story and experience is also part of America. He also "sings America" and he also "is America." He also belongs even though he has been sent to eat in the kitchen.

The central question of the CRT debate is how full of a picture of American history -- whose stories do we also include? It's not always pretty or comfortable, but its honest.
THE central question? Really?
That may be the way you see the debate, but I've yet to come across someone either saying or writing that they're opposed to CRT in schools for the expanded historical content, viewpoints, etc. Indeed, the Texas-Anti-CRT bill forbids requiring school employees to participate in training that “presents any form of race or sex stereotyping or blame on the basis of race or sex.” but it says that students should understand the following:
(7) the history of white supremacy, including but not limited to the institution of slavery, the eugenics movement, and the Ku Klux Klan, and the ways in which it is morally wrong;

(8) the history and importance of the civil rights movement, including the following documents:

(A) Martin Luther King Jr.’s “Letter from a Birmingham Jail” and “I Have a Dream” speech;

(B) the federal Civil Rights Act of 1964 (42 U.S.C. Section 2000a et seq.);

(C) the United States Supreme Court’s decision in Brown v. Board of Education;

(D) the Emancipation Proclamation;

(E) the Universal Declaration of Human Rights;

(F) the Thirteenth, Fourteenth, and Fifteenth Amendments to the United States Constitution
and that if teachers explore controversial topic they should: “explore the topic from diverse and contending perspectives without giving deference to any one perspective.”

I'm sure you're not a fan a of Chris Rufo, investigative journalist at City Journal - his substack though functions as a sort of clearing house for examples of CRT in education. No of course Derrick Bell and Kimberle Crenshaw are not being taught to school children - theirs is high academic and largely unreadable theory. The theory though is being put into action - that is what parents and others are so incensed about. It has nothing to do with the teaching of history (who among us was not taught about slavery, Jim Crow, rampant racism, Civil Rights, The Harlem Renaissance etc.?) and everything to do with the application of bad and dangerous academic clap-trap:
Seattle Public Schools tells teachers that the education system is guilty of “spirit murder” against black children and that white teachers must “bankrupt [their] privilege in acknowledgement of [their] thieved inheritance.” Link

San Diego Public Schools accuses white teachers of being colonizers on stolen Native American land and tells them “you are racist” and “you are upholding racist ideas, structures, and policies.” They recommend that the teachers undergo “antiracist therapy.” Link

A Cupertino, California, elementary school forces third-graders to deconstruct their racial and sexual identities, then rank themselves according to their “power and privilege.” They separate the eight-year-old children into oppressors and oppressed. Link

A middle school in Springfield, Missouri, forces teachers to locate themselves on an “oppression matrix,” claiming that white heterosexual Protestant males are inherently oppressors and must atone for their “covert white supremacy.” Link

A Philadelphia elementary school forces fifth-graders to celebrate “Black communism” and simulate a Black Power rally to “free Angela Davis” from prison. At this school, 87 percent of students will fail to achieve basic literacy by graduation. Link

Buffalo Public Schools teaches students that “all white people” perpetuate systemic racism and forces kindergarteners to watch a video of dead black children warning them about “racist police and state-sanctioned violence” who might kill them at any time. Link

The Arizona Department of Education created an “equity” toolkit claiming that babies show the first signs of racism at three months old and that white children become full racists—”strongly biased in favor of whiteness”—by age five. Link

The California Department of Education passed an “ethnic studies” curriculum that calls for the “decolonization” of American society and has students chant to the Aztec god of human sacrifice. The solution, according to one author, is “countergenocide.” Link

North Carolina’s largest school district launches a campaign against “whiteness in educational spaces”—and encourages teachers to subvert families and push the ideology of “antiracism” directly onto students without parental consent. Link

Santa Clara County Office of Education denounces the United States as a “parasitic system” based on the “invasion” of “white male settlers” and encourages teachers to “cash in on kids’ inherent empathy” in order to recruit them into political activism. Link
These examples, as well as examples of children going on privilege walks, the creation of 'affinity spaces' and readings of everyone's favorite race-grifter, Mr. Kendi - are what parents bang on about when they complain about CRT in school. They may not have the academic vocabulary to distinguish between the argle-bargle of Peggy McIntosh or Ms. Fragility and that of their children coming home to talk to them about how they mapped their privilege or that America was created specifically as a 'slaveocracy' but, they don't need to because, like porn, they know when they see it.
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Another example: "A middle school in Pennsylvania is receiving pushback from some parents for hosting a drone-flying camp over the weekend that was not open to white students."
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Here’s an example of what Douthat is talking about. Parents who object to the teaching about stolen Indian lands in the Black Hills because it is “divisive” or “polarizing” and CRT. Which only belies the point that CRT has simply become a label for anything in American history that makes people “uncomfortable”

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These are fine sentiments but I remember reading about slavery in highschool (I was very moved by it) and I think the younger generations (in our local Catholic Schools anyway) already get to hear some history from a Native American and Black American perspective. Racism is not so universal in this country that we all needed riots and mayhem to "get it." We didn't need riots, death and mayhem to edit the history books with more stories. My opinion of all this violence is it was 5 percent about racism and 95 percent socialist revolution and virtue signaling.

Want to give others the chance to tell their own stories? I think it's a great idea.

But maybe we should tell stories about how socialist revolutionaries will use these divisions in the country to try and further their own agendas as well.
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Falco Underhill wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:25 pm These are fine sentiments but I remember reading about slavery in highschool (I was very moved by it) and I think the younger generations (in our local Catholic Schools anyway) already get to hear some history from a Native American and Black American perspective. Racism is not so universal in this country that we all needed riots and mayhem to "get it." We didn't need riots, death and mayhem to edit the history books with more stories. My opinion of all this violence is it was 5 percent about racism and 95 percent socialist revolution and virtue signaling.

Want to give others the chance to tell their own stories? I think it's a great idea.

But maybe we should tell stories about how socialist revolutionaries will use these divisions in the country to try and further their own agendas as well.
Yes of course. We should definitely cover American socialism in history class as well. Eugene Debs and the Socialist Party is part of American history too. We should talk more about the horrible things they promoted back in the day, like the minimum wage and opposition to WW1 which ultimately got him jailed for sedition, and forced him to run his last presidential campaign from inside a prison cell.
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Ken wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:50 pm
Falco Underhill wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:25 pm These are fine sentiments but I remember reading about slavery in highschool (I was very moved by it) and I think the younger generations (in our local Catholic Schools anyway) already get to hear some history from a Native American and Black American perspective. Racism is not so universal in this country that we all needed riots and mayhem to "get it." We didn't need riots, death and mayhem to edit the history books with more stories. My opinion of all this violence is it was 5 percent about racism and 95 percent socialist revolution and virtue signaling.

Want to give others the chance to tell their own stories? I think it's a great idea.

But maybe we should tell stories about how socialist revolutionaries will use these divisions in the country to try and further their own agendas as well.
Yes of course. We should definitely cover American socialism in history class as well. Eugene Debs and the Socialist Party is part of American history too. We should talk more about the horrible things they promoted back in the day, like the minimum wage and opposition to WW1 which ultimately got him jailed for sedition, and forced him to run his last presidential campaign from inside a prison cell.
H.S. Textbooks already cover those things, Ken. (At least, I remember it.). If you think that's all they do, and they don't foment revolutions, I've a got a bridge to sell you

Yes, the socialists opposed WWI (because they always hated nationalism) and they lost that argument. Then some decided to try state socialism.

The international socialists just haven't had a chance yet, till now, with the Great Reset.
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Falco Underhill wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:24 pm
Ken wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:50 pm
Falco Underhill wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:25 pm These are fine sentiments but I remember reading about slavery in highschool (I was very moved by it) and I think the younger generations (in our local Catholic Schools anyway) already get to hear some history from a Native American and Black American perspective. Racism is not so universal in this country that we all needed riots and mayhem to "get it." We didn't need riots, death and mayhem to edit the history books with more stories. My opinion of all this violence is it was 5 percent about racism and 95 percent socialist revolution and virtue signaling.

Want to give others the chance to tell their own stories? I think it's a great idea.

But maybe we should tell stories about how socialist revolutionaries will use these divisions in the country to try and further their own agendas as well.
Yes of course. We should definitely cover American socialism in history class as well. Eugene Debs and the Socialist Party is part of American history too. We should talk more about the horrible things they promoted back in the day, like the minimum wage and opposition to WW1 which ultimately got him jailed for sedition, and forced him to run his last presidential campaign from inside a prison cell.
H.S. Textbooks already cover those things, Ken. (At least, I remember it.). If you think that's all they do, and they don't foment revolutions, I've a got a bridge to sell you

Yes, the socialists opposed WWI (because they always hated nationalism) and they lost that argument. Then some decided to try state socialism.

The international socialists just haven't had a chance yet, till now, with the Great Reset.
I’m just messing with you. But history isn’t about what happened last summer. They rarely cover much that happened in the past 50 years or so. Maybe the Civil Rights Movement and the Vietnam War and Cold War but that is about where things end.
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Ken wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:48 pm
Falco Underhill wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:24 pm
Ken wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:50 pm

Yes of course. We should definitely cover American socialism in history class as well. Eugene Debs and the Socialist Party is part of American history too. We should talk more about the horrible things they promoted back in the day, like the minimum wage and opposition to WW1 which ultimately got him jailed for sedition, and forced him to run his last presidential campaign from inside a prison cell.
H.S. Textbooks already cover those things, Ken. (At least, I remember it.). If you think that's all they do, and they don't foment revolutions, I've a got a bridge to sell you

Yes, the socialists opposed WWI (because they always hated nationalism) and they lost that argument. Then some decided to try state socialism.

The international socialists just haven't had a chance yet, till now, with the Great Reset.
I’m just messing with you. But history isn’t about what happened last summer. They rarely cover much that happened in the past 50 years or so. Maybe the Civil Rights Movement and the Vietnam War and Cold War but that is about where things end.
What are you talking about? I teach history. I’ve taught it in Pennsylvania and I teach it in Honduras. All of my textbooks begin American history with proto-Americans crossing the Bering land bridge and then move forward from there. We spend quite a bit of time on the various and sundry atrocities committed by various and sundry peoples. Ive taught from and have been taught from (when I was in H.S.) Howard Zinn’s “A People’s History…”. It’s sloppy and myopic history to be sure but it’s a great tool for bringing in marginalized perspectives. That is to say in all of my experience in the learning and teaching of history, I’ve never experienced a “glossing over” of the unseemly parts as it were. What examples of history textbooks are familiar with that only teach from the Cold War to Present?
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HondurasKeiser wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:08 pm
Ken wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:48 pm
Falco Underhill wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:24 pm

H.S. Textbooks already cover those things, Ken. (At least, I remember it.). If you think that's all they do, and they don't foment revolutions, I've a got a bridge to sell you

Yes, the socialists opposed WWI (because they always hated nationalism) and they lost that argument. Then some decided to try state socialism.

The international socialists just haven't had a chance yet, till now, with the Great Reset.
I’m just messing with you. But history isn’t about what happened last summer. They rarely cover much that happened in the past 50 years or so. Maybe the Civil Rights Movement and the Vietnam War and Cold War but that is about where things end.
What are you talking about? I teach history. I’ve taught it in Pennsylvania and I teach it in Honduras. All of my textbooks begin American history with proto-Americans crossing the Bering land bridge and then move forward from there. We spend quite a bit of time on the various and sundry atrocities committed by various and sundry peoples. Ive taught from and have been taught from (when I was in H.S.) Howard Zinn’s “A People’s History…”. It’s sloppy and myopic history to be sure but it’s a great tool for bringing in marginalized perspectives. That is to say in all of my experience in the learning and teaching of history, I’ve never experienced a “glossing over” of the unseemly parts as it were. What examples of history textbooks are familiar with that only teach from the Cold War to Present?
No, I’m saying the opposite.

History textbooks start way back in the dawn of time. Bering land bridge, etc. And more or less END with the ending of the Cold War in the 1990s, Civil Rights movement, Vietnam War, etc. They don’t cover very recent events like 2020 BLM protests that Falco was talking about when he wanted to discuss how socialist revolutionaries are inserting themselves into the BLM movement or some such.

My daughter is in world history this year, not American history but I’m curious to check where her textbook ends. The AP US history textbook that my other daughter used ended more or less with 9-11 which is 20 years ago now, but they never got that far in the class. I think she basically got up to the Vietnam War and Reagan Revolution. The current AP US history subject outline basically ends with the end of the Cold War and 9-11 and the start of the War on Terror and Iraq/Afghanistan interventions.
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Maybe schools don't use history books in print form anymore, but a school system cannot purchase new books every year. I don't recall what class it was in, but I remember having current events study when I was in HS. (Of course that was the Vietnam era, Nixon impeachment, etc. I think it might have been Government class, but not sure.)
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