Interested in learning about Holdemans
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Ernie
Re: Interested in learning about Holdemans
Do Holdemans use Anabaptist Financial and are they recognized as a church group under Anabaptist Financial?
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Josh
Re: Interested in learning about Holdemans
AF used to, but about a year or two ago, they informed any borrowers who had used AF that they needed to refinance with someone else as soon as possible. Going forward they don’t recognise Holdemans anymore as fellow Anabaptists.
One of the people I go to church with had used AF to purchase his grocery store; he refinanced with the local commercial bank.
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Ken
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Re: Interested in learning about Holdemans
Why? What changed?Josh wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:22 pmAF used to, but about a year or two ago, they informed any borrowers who had used AF that they needed to refinance with someone else as soon as possible. Going forward they don’t recognise Holdemans anymore as fellow Anabaptists.
One of the people I go to church with had used AF to purchase his grocery store; he refinanced with the local commercial bank.
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Josh
Re: Interested in learning about Holdemans
Holdemans and basically the rest of the plain world tend to be at enmity with one another. Most plain organisations that include a variety of groups exclude Holdemans.Ken wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:53 pmWhy? What changed?Josh wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:22 pmAF used to, but about a year or two ago, they informed any borrowers who had used AF that they needed to refinance with someone else as soon as possible. Going forward they don’t recognise Holdemans anymore as fellow Anabaptists.
One of the people I go to church with had used AF to purchase his grocery store; he refinanced with the local commercial bank.
On the other hand, worldly organisations that expressly serve plain people do usually allow us to participate.
It’s hard to put in words just how bad the enmity is, particularly in certain places amongst the older generation.
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ABC 123
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It is somewhat self inflicted because the Holdemans tend to consider themselves a notch above and hand out gospel tracts to other Mennonites.Josh wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:33 pmHoldemans and basically the rest of the plain world tend to be at enmity with one another. Most plain organisations that include a variety of groups exclude Holdemans.Ken wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:53 pmWhy? What changed?Josh wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:22 pm
AF used to, but about a year or two ago, they informed any borrowers who had used AF that they needed to refinance with someone else as soon as possible. Going forward they don’t recognise Holdemans anymore as fellow Anabaptists.
One of the people I go to church with had used AF to purchase his grocery store; he refinanced with the local commercial bank.
On the other hand, worldly organisations that expressly serve plain people do usually allow us to participate.
It’s hard to put in words just how bad the enmity is, particularly in certain places amongst the older generation.
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Josh
Re: Interested in learning about Holdemans
Sort of like how most conservative Mennonites hand out gospel tracts to Amish.ABC 123 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:54 pmIt is somewhat self inflicted because the Holdemans tend to consider themselves a notch above and hand out gospel tracts to other Mennonites.Josh wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:33 pmHoldemans and basically the rest of the plain world tend to be at enmity with one another. Most plain organisations that include a variety of groups exclude Holdemans.
On the other hand, worldly organisations that expressly serve plain people do usually allow us to participate.
It’s hard to put in words just how bad the enmity is, particularly in certain places amongst the older generation.
(Personally, I try to hand out gospel tracts to anyone who will take them.)
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Wade
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I'm fine with them giving out tracts to the rest of us. I've collected a lot of Mennonite gospel tracts over the years - Holdeman tracts are the best put together and worded tracts for reaching people in my opinion. The encouragement is a blessing.ABC 123 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:54 pmIt is somewhat self inflicted because the Holdemans tend to consider themselves a notch above and hand out gospel tracts to other Mennonites.Josh wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:33 pmHoldemans and basically the rest of the plain world tend to be at enmity with one another. Most plain organisations that include a variety of groups exclude Holdemans.
On the other hand, worldly organisations that expressly serve plain people do usually allow us to participate.
It’s hard to put in words just how bad the enmity is, particularly in certain places amongst the older generation.
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Soloist
Re: Interested in learning about Holdemans
In my experience, the Holdeman's haven't ever given me a tract, but they have been friendly. I would point out given the opinion of them on the forum that many here would give them tracts too so I think that's a silly point of contention. My church longer ago would have had permitted Holdeman's to speak at least for leading the prayer if not a devotional. We can respond to the perceived divide or we can try to build bridges with common ground.Wade wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:06 pmI'm fine with them giving out tracts to the rest of us. I've collected a lot of Mennonite gospel tracts over the years - Holdeman tracts are the best put together and worded tracts for reaching people in my opinion. The encouragement is a blessing.ABC 123 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:54 pmIt is somewhat self inflicted because the Holdemans tend to consider themselves a notch above and hand out gospel tracts to other Mennonites.Josh wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:33 pm
Holdemans and basically the rest of the plain world tend to be at enmity with one another. Most plain organisations that include a variety of groups exclude Holdemans.
On the other hand, worldly organisations that expressly serve plain people do usually allow us to participate.
It’s hard to put in words just how bad the enmity is, particularly in certain places amongst the older generation.
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theodoreclaudius
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Re: Interested in learning about Holdemans
"hand out gospel tracts to other Mennonites."
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theodoreclaudius
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