Ivermectin

[Ken]

So, the governor of New York ascends the pulpit at a Pentecostal-style mega church in Brooklyn and preaches:

" Yes, I know you're vaccinated. they're the smart ones, but you know, there are people out there who aren't listening to god and what god wants. you know, this, you know who they are," Hochul said. "I need you to be my apostles, I need you to go out and talk about it and say, we owe this to each other. we love each other. Jesus taught us to love one another. and how do you show that love, but to care about each other enough to say, please get vaccinated because I love you. I want you to live."

She and I seem to be reading and understanding different Bibles.

What part of what she said are you taking issue with? There is more than one definition of the word “apostle”. It also simply means “messenger” or “advocate”. In any event, this is an Ivermectin promotion thread. Is Ivermectin mentioned in your bible?

[Josh]

Jesus didn’t teach to go and tell all men to be apostles and disciples of experimental vaccines.

[temporal1]

Ken:
.. this is an Ivermectin promotion thread. ..

think again. boot is not guilty of promoting IVM.

[temporal1]

So, the governor of New York ascends the pulpit at a Pentecostal-style mega church in Brooklyn and preaches:

" Yes, I know you're vaccinated. they're the smart ones, but you know, there are people out there who aren't listening to god and what god wants. you know, this, you know who they are," Hochul said. "I need you to be my apostles, I need you to go out and talk about it and say, we owe this to each other. we love each other. Jesus taught us to love one another. and how do you show that love, but to care about each other enough to say, please get vaccinated because I love you. I want you to live."

She and I seem to be reading and understanding different Bibles.

What part of what she said are you taking issue with?

There is more than one definition of the word “apostle”. It also simply means “messenger” or “advocate”.

In any event, this is an Ivermectin promotion thread. Is Ivermectin mentioned in your bible?

How charitable to attempt to cover up what this divisive politician did here. “Birds of a feather.”

Yes. There are various uses for her chosen words.
Her use, directed to a group of Pentecostal Christians, is blasphemous. She is invoking God’s name, God’s will, Jesus’ name, Jesus’ will, to call “her” disciples from a group of Pentecostals FOR HER QUESTIONABLE PURPOSES, citing they are God’s will.
No debate. She’s recorded for all to witness.

If you hate that some Christians (NOT politicians) are mistaken to believe Trump (or obama, or other) are “God’s choice” for POTUS, how much more must you hate this elected politician for her appropriation of scriptures? With greater magnitude, she invokes biden’s massive gaff to black voters, “You ain’t black,” if you don’t vote for me? It’s the same formula, on a sacred scale.

“You ain’t Christian” if you don’t do - as i say.

What a gift to biden his handlers censor and do not allow him twitter. He’s said enough over decades they know better.

“The people” should be queasy about censorship of U.S. presidents. Whether done to destroy or elevate, this is flatly wrong.

New York has a real piece of work there in this governor. The DNC can be counted on to always come up with “worse.”
The DNC has a notoriously deep bench in the “worse” category. They’re using biden to leverage worse+worse.

[haithabu]

In purporting to speak for God (she is essentially saying “thus saith the Lord”) Hochul is acting as a false prophet.

[temporal1]

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i’m going through the steps to get a human RX for IVM with a human physician’s order, from a human pharmacy.

It’s ordered through Honeybee, the charge is pending on my credit card.
Their website advises it will take some time to arrive. No shortage problems. Backed up orders.

i’ll be glad to have it on hand, in the event. These are 3mg tablets. i hope they split easily.

Meanwhile, my doctor replied, stating IVM is not a present treatment (here) for COVID.

[Valerie]

Studies also found there was no clarity on mortality benefit, no effect on length of hospital stay and recovery in case of Ivermectin.

Recommending that Ivermectin be dropped from the clinical guidance, experts cited 13 systematic reviews of which “7/13 showed mortality benefit, 4/13 no mortality benefit, 2/13 inconclusive/unclear.”

Additionally, there was a high risk of bias in many of the studies, particularly with the ones showing mortality benefit, as the level of certainty is low in them.

The recommendations were made at a meeting of the All India Institute of Medical Sciences (AIIMS) and the ICMR national task force for Covid-19 and the Joint Monitoring Group on August 20.

I'm not endorsing Ivermectin, but when you have 13 studies and 7 of them show benefit, 4 no benefit and then you focus on the bias of the positive gain studies and not on the negative studies... the bias is obvious. That being said, I personally have no idea if Ivermectin works, I know it was endorsed by Fouci back for SARS-Covid in 2005 so... logically there must have been a reason. Equally so, its possible we have further data but that data didn't exist prior to Covid-19 to my knowledge. There could have been a study done somewhere but likely there would have been no reason. This makes it a little odd that Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine was discounted before further studies were really done.

Could you please share where you got the information that vouchee approved ivermectin in 2005 for SARS Covid? Hearing about the treatments that are beneficial to keep one from the hospital, and actually obtaining them, are two different things, we found out the hard way. Also do you know if that was a horse-paced Iver.ectin or a pill form?

[Valerie]

Excuse me, Fauci.

[ohio jones]

Could you please share where you got the information that vouchee approved ivermectin in 2005 for SARS Covid? Hearing about the treatments that are beneficial to keep one from the hospital, and actually obtaining them, are two different things, we found out the hard way. Also do you know if that was a horse-paced Iver.ectin or a pill form?

There is amble evidence, canter to popular opinion as measured by the Gallop poll that someone is sure to trot out, that one should not leap to conclusions about the availability of Ivermectin.

[haithabu]

Our reliance on Ivermectin as a backup plan is being put to the test.

We went on a five day road trip two weekends ago through Southern Alberta and ended up at our son's in Vauxhall. We left two tubes of Ivermectin with them though my son said it was a "hard pass" as to whether he would use it. We returned home on Monday.

Last Wednesday our daughter-in-law texted and said that the supply had been used up and could they have more? She had used it for a friend who was about 5 days into a case of Covid and then began using it for herself the day after we left because she wasn't feeling well. Also two other friends who were a week into their cases but were previously resistant had asked to try IVM.

We made arrangements for one of our daughters to make a resupply run but then cancelled when DIL texted back to say that she was feeling better and would get by on Tylenol and that their friends had changed their mind because he had gotten an anti nausea drug and was feeling better himself. So, okay.

Then she texted once again this Sunday morning to say that there had been a general relapse. She had been in bed since Friday and their friend was now in the hospital receiving supportive care. In addition to all of which our son was now also showing symptoms.

So we loaded up the supplies, got rapid tests to confirm our own status (negative all round), then prayed over our daughter who has gone off to help them for the duration. (They have three young children.)

I have made a few observations:

1) This is a very fast moving infection. It ain't your daddy's Covid. It has run in a very short time through five adults that we know of, including two couples, no exceptions. All 40 or younger, the couples are all fit with no comorbidities. This is in contrast with Covid 1.0 for which symptomatic infection for this demographic was an outlier. The three for whom the disease was allowed to advance are quite sick with varying symptoms of pneumonia. We have hopes that Ivermectin with Quercetin, zinc, D3 and C will help to arrest that progression in our son and his wife. Not to mention keeping our daughter safe!

2) Because it is that much faster moving this variant leaves less time for our immune system to respond. So prophylaxis is that much more important to slow it down as is early treatment before it gets too far into its replication cycle. Two of the three who are the worst off have received no intervention at all and the third did not until day 5 of symptoms and that was interrupted. None of them to my knowledge were using an antiviral prophylactic such as Quercetin, including our son and his wife. They were relying on their demographic and health status to protect them which was valid at one point but now appears to be less effective than it was.

3) To beware of false recovery. If symptoms lessen, not to take it as a signal to stop treatment but continue through to the end. (Generally five days.)


So there it is. I will keep you posted and of course ask for your prayers for our kids and their friends, especially Jason who is in hospital.