Coronavirus Outbreak

[ken_sylvania]

And it is good thing we aren't doing anything like that then with respect to Covid. Guess what Neto. As of today, we have administered 389 MILLION vaccine doses here in the US, and 5.95 BILLION doses of Covid vaccine worldwide and not one single baby was aborted to make that happen. As a result, many hundreds of thousands of lives have been saved, both young and old. Parents, children, grandparents, teachers, neighbors, nurses, doctors, friends, relatives. Everyone one of those lives are important. Not just to their family, friends and co-workers. But I believe to God as well.

Not sure what Neto has to do with this...

I was responding Neto equating Covid vaccines with paganism.

You're sure that was Neto?

[ohio jones]

Where I disagree with most here is that I don't believe that criminalizing abortion is the best way to go about reducing abortions.

I'm not sure that's what most here think. But let's find out.

[nett]

Meanwhile, is COVID actually as scary as they initially told us?

The threat of Long Covid was clearly overstated in the past. As the Telegraph reports, previous studies estimated that one in five people infected with Covid would suffer long-term symptoms, but the ONS’s latest comprehensive analyses have called that into question. As Dr Michael Absoud of King’s College London sums it up, where the ONS itself estimated in April this year that there was a 12-week prevalence of symptoms among 14 per cent of people infected with Covid, its latest study has ‘revised [that] down to three per cent’. Also this week, a review published in the Pediatric Infectious Disease Journal found that children and adolescents rarely experience Long Covid. The authors found, in the words of the Guardian, that lingering symptoms in kids are ‘less common than previously feared’.

So, it seems that Long Covid is not as widespread as we were told it was. More importantly – and, yes, this is the more difficult thing to discuss – maybe Long Covid is not as real as we were told it was, either. Maybe the fairly typical problems that a minority of people experience after a virus were, in this case, unjustifiably blown up into a whole new sickness. Alongside examining the measurable, physical prevalence of long-lasting symptoms in people who have been infected with Covid – something it is very important for society to do – we must also analyse the cultural components to Long Covid. How much did the culture of fear around Long Covid help to convince people that they had it? And did a broader culture of victimhood likewise help to coax people to self-identify as suffering from this new, seemingly fascinating ailment, and even to embrace Long Covid as a kind of identity?

[justme]

i had covid in november 2020. i lost my sense of taste and smell. when it finally started to come back, it came back completely distorted. and stayed that way for months.

on aug 8, i was stung by a wasp. on the 10th, there were changes. this is what i wrote on fb.

it's been 9 months since i lost taste and smell. and 6 months since smell became distorted. it's been an inconvenience, bc in order to get any taste, i kept dumping salt on stuff. and salt and fat people aren't friends. but as of this evening, i'm cautiously optimistic. 3 things i noticed today. i pumped gas, and it smelled different than in the past. mom's left over beef bbq was really good this evening, i could actually taste the flavors. usually meat is just disgusting sulfur smell/taste. and the peaches, oh, i could taste the peaches! when even 2 days ago, they didn't taste like peaches.

that being said, it hasn't come back completely. i think i need to find another wasp and torment it into stinging me.

my niece who is 17, has not had taste or smell for almost a year. she told her mom she forgets what food is supposed to taste like. my sis in law says, i know i like ham, so i guess this must be the new normal for ham. she also had covid almost a year ago.

i think that these 3 instances count as long term effects.

[Josh]

i had covid in november 2020. i lost my sense of taste and smell. when it finally started to come back, it came back completely distorted. and stayed that way for months.

on aug 8, i was stung by a wasp. on the 10th, there were changes. this is what i wrote on fb.

it's been 9 months since i lost taste and smell. and 6 months since smell became distorted. it's been an inconvenience, bc in order to get any taste, i kept dumping salt on stuff. and salt and fat people aren't friends. but as of this evening, i'm cautiously optimistic. 3 things i noticed today. i pumped gas, and it smelled different than in the past. mom's left over beef bbq was really good this evening, i could actually taste the flavors. usually meat is just disgusting sulfur smell/taste. and the peaches, oh, i could taste the peaches! when even 2 days ago, they didn't taste like peaches.

that being said, it hasn't come back completely. i think i need to find another wasp and torment it into stinging me.

my niece who is 17, has not had taste or smell for almost a year. she told her mom she forgets what food is supposed to taste like. my sis in law says, i know i like ham, so i guess this must be the new normal for ham. she also had covid almost a year ago.

i think that these 3 instances count as long term effects.

Are these long term effects worth avoiding by shutting down the whole world, cancelling church, and forcing people to get vaccines they don’t want?

Colds have always made people lose their taste and smell. This isn’t a new problem.

[Ken]

Not sure what Neto has to do with this...

I was responding Neto equating Covid vaccines with paganism.

You're sure that was Neto?

Right...it was Nett. Sorry Neto for dragging you into this.

[justme]

Are these long term effects worth avoiding by shutting down the whole world, cancelling church, and forcing people to get vaccines they don’t want?

Is loss of taste and smell enough to shut down the whole world?
I don't think so. At least not for myself.
What i was responding to was you handwaving away the fact that long term effects do exist.

[Robert]

A little bit of rough language, but felt it was important to post.

[Valerie]

Are these long term effects worth avoiding by shutting down the whole world, cancelling church, and forcing people to get vaccines they don’t want?

Is loss of taste and smell enough to shut down the whole world?
I don't think so. At least not for myself.
What i was responding to was you handwaving away the fact that long term effects do exist.

I've read the numerous sources that lost of taste and smell is evidence of a deficiency in zinc.

The end of July I got covid and was down for 2 weeks. The PCR test said I was negative for covid. However I've never been down for 2 weeks of my life and one day and one day only I lost my sense of taste and smell.

Last week I had an antibody test which revealed I had had recent covid so the PCR test was inaccurate.

Sunday my husband tested positive for covid. We believed he had a sinus infection because he is allergic to dust and he swept up our dirty garage with a garage door closed because it was broken. Coming home from work and finding out he work in the garage like that all day I asked if he had a mask on, and he said he had forgotten. Sure enough next day he started with his typical sinus infection symptoms that he has not had for 4 years. On Sunday I thought just to be on the safe side I should get them tested for covid. Has Tess came back positive so apparently he has covid but he has not yet lost sense of taste or smell, because they're so generous in your but we have been taking zinc pretty faithfully but now we start to protocol with all the right supplements and I did pick up some ivermectin.

I always thought if he got covid I've been going to the Gabrial Cancer treatment center which I understood has been giving the Amish natural products to treat covid. So I showed up at their pharmacy and asked for the same things but because I'm not Amish ,(she asked if I was) they would not sell me the treatments, but I've been able to round up the protocol supplements to fight it.

I guess bottom line is a zinc deficiency can make you more susceptible to all viruses and if you lost your sense of taste and smell it's indicative of zinc deficiency which is easy to it's the best thing to try to go to address

[Josh]

Are these long term effects worth avoiding by shutting down the whole world, cancelling church, and forcing people to get vaccines they don’t want?

Is loss of taste and smell enough to shut down the whole world?
I don't think so. At least not for myself.
What i was responding to was you handwaving away the fact that long term effects do exist.

Long term effects also exist from a cold in the sense a big pile of tissues sits in a trash can. When people say “long covid”, they mean serious symptoms that affect their ability to work and have normal life.

Valerie is correct that a healthy nutritious diet including important micro-nutrients like zinc matters for recovering from an illness like a cold. The modern American diet should be avoided at all costs, and indeed is usually what makes people sick in the first place.