ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:18 pm
There has been some reporting claiming that hospitals are overworked and under-staffed due to the work created by COVID.
Perhaps another factor is contributing to the shortage. NPR reports that a hospital in Lewis County, NY is at least temporarily shuttering its maternity ward due to the number of staff who are quitting rather than be injected against their will.
It's true: at my hospital, a large number of PRN and part time nurses have quit, it simply isn't worth the hassle to work right now with everything going on... and then it becomes worse, because people hate working how short we are, so more people end up quitting, and the cycle continues. We have recently limited capacity in wards of our hospital due to staffing problems, and STILL run short staffed on top of that-- which, of course, predisposes to look overworked/overrun in the event of a surge. Not to mention overwork the already overworked nurses.
The extra work created by COVID puts a lot of work on the nurses-- having 4+ patients that require full precautions means you have to put a lot more work in to every little step of things. As a provider, it's not as much of a hassle because it's a one-time contact once a day, but nurses have to go in and out nonstop all day, and have to change attire between their patients, it's more of a headache than I think the average person considers.
ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:18 pm
There has been some reporting claiming that hospitals are overworked and under-staffed due to the work created by COVID.
Perhaps another factor is contributing to the shortage. NPR reports that a hospital in Lewis County, NY is at least temporarily shuttering its maternity ward due to the number of staff who are quitting rather than be injected against their will.
It's true: at my hospital, a large number of PRN and part time nurses have quit, it simply isn't worth the hassle to work right now with everything going on... and then it becomes worse, because people hate working how short we are, so more people end up quitting, and the cycle continues. We have recently limited capacity in wards of our hospital due to staffing problems, and STILL run short staffed on top of that-- which, of course, predisposes to look overworked/overrun in the event of a surge. Not to mention overwork the already overworked nurses.
The extra work created by COVID puts a lot of work on the nurses-- having 4+ patients that require full precautions means you have to put a lot more work in to every little step of things. As a provider, it's not as much of a hassle because it's a one-time contact once a day, but nurses have to go in and out nonstop all day, and have to change attire between their patients, it's more of a headache than I think the average person considers.
yeah... its really rough and the ratio's are nuts... normal ICU nurse takes 1-2 critical patients, normal Medsurg takes 3-5. Current staffing ratio's I've been told about in Oregon are up to 5 for ICU and up to 12 for Medsurg... My work is down 1 nurse with the possibility of of losing 4 nurses of 7 nurses...
Soloist wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:01 pm
yeah... its really rough and the ratio's are nuts... normal ICU nurse takes 1-2 critical patients, normal Medsurg takes 3-5. Current staffing ratio's I've been told about in Oregon are up to 5 for ICU and up to 12 for Medsurg... My work is down 1 nurse with the possibility of of losing 4 nurses of 7 nurses...
Yeah, sadly our covid floor is currently 4:1 on a good day. I had to see a patient for a consult but didn't have a N95, so I had to do the interview over the phone. I schedule with the RN when I would make the call so they could be in the room to help the patient. Long story short, they missed my initial call because it takes them so long to gown up, even though they planned to be there at a certain time.
I really don't think people understand the amount of stress on nurses, I don't blame a single one of them for leaving. My sister is an ER nurse in another state, and she tells me stories frequently about how bad it is. She has basically described that nurses are leaving because it is so short staffed, you feel like a horrible human being because you can't meet your patient's basic needs-- they're soiling themselves, hypoxic, and a myriad of other things-- because you're pulled between so many patients you can't do it the way you used to.
A new study suggests that almost half of those hospitalized with COVID-19 have mild or asymptomatic cases.
Could this be because regular doctors are not treating early and just sending everyone to the hospital?
Probably more like regular doctors are so over-worked that they aren't seeing many non-critical patients at all. So people are going straight to the ER because they can't get a regular office visit.
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A new study suggests that almost half of those hospitalized with COVID-19 have mild or asymptomatic cases.
Could this be because regular doctors are not treating early and just sending everyone to the hospital?
I don't know, but I think people these days, especially those with low to no deductible insurance, are just very quick to go to the hospital.
That's not a new phenomenon-- people without co-pays often go straight to the ER because they can without consequence. It would be an interesting spread to see private vs public insured who present to the hospital with covid symptoms.
A new study suggests that almost half of those hospitalized with COVID-19 have mild or asymptomatic cases.
Could this be because regular doctors are not treating early and just sending everyone to the hospital?
Probably more like regular doctors are so over-worked that they aren't seeing many non-critical patients at all. So people are going straight to the ER because they can't get a regular office visit.
Well well well, look what the hot mic picked up. If there is no medical or epidemiological justification, then why exactly do they need to pressure the unvaccinated?
