Natural (God given) immunity is superior

[ohio jones]

mental net

After the last few days it does sort of seem like that, doesn't it?

[temporal1]

mental net

After the last few days it does sort of seem like that, doesn't it?

[Valerie]

mental net

After the last few days it does sort of seem like that, doesn't it?

Yes, as usual when i went back to read & correct ot was to late, but on "this" case the error seemed to more truthful than erroneous

[Josh]

Ivermectin is dirt cheap. My business partner got it for the $10 copay at the pharmacy. Cheaper than the antacid she takes that has a bigger copay.

By the way, her symptoms lasted about one day (other than taste and smell) and she made a full recovery. I strongly recommend asking your doctor to follow the FLCCC protocol, or else find a doctor who will do it, if you think you’re starting to have covid symptoms.

[silentreader]

mental net

After the last few days it does sort of seem like that, doesn't it?

Last few days?

[Neto]

Before someone else gets accused again of making a comment about low education level & resistance to taking the vaccine, I am owning up to having been the one who mentioned those two things in the same post (see the quote link below).

I mentioned several things in response to a post which appeared to me to be using Holmes County as a proof case for non-vaccination.
Fatalism among the Amish. (I didn't say it, but this is also common in other groups with low educational levels. I've also seen this in remote societies in Brazil, both Indian and non-Indian.)
The fact that there have been a fair number of deaths in the families of people I know personally. (We just received a text message from someone in our small-group at our congregation. Their son came down with the virus several days ago, and has just been admitted to the hospital with pneumonia, critical condition.)
Correspondence of low educational level and a tendency to accept conspiracy theories. This may be an unfounded conclusion of cause-effect, and it was also perhaps not worded well, but it is these alternative truths that I associated with resistance toward conventional medical procedures or practices (not the relative educational level of the person).
I then also mentioned "Medical Quackery" as one common element of Appalachian society. In Amish society, some of this is just simple nonsense, and some is regarded by many as occultic. The Banawa had pseudo-medical practices like this as well. For instance, to prevent the spread of swelling from a snake bite, raw Brazil nuts were scorched in the fire, then used to draw black lines on the skin, which were supposed to stop the swelling from passing the marks, progressing up the affected limb. I'll give you a clue - it doesn't help. But they also had a great amount of knowledge of the medical benefits of all kinds of plants - remedies which actually work in almost miraculous ways. (I have mentioned some of these true remedies in the past. But one example of Quackery we heard there, and this comes from the local Brazilian population: I actually don't remember now what it was supposed to cure, but the treatment was to take dried dog feces - it had to be dried enough that it had turned white - pound it into powder, mix with water, & drink it.)

[Szdfan]

The willingness to embrace conspiracy theories and pseudo-scientific medical quackery isn’t limited to those with low education or conservative politics. It’s one of those areas where the liberal and conservative edges converge. Boulder, CO is a wealthy, highly educated, liberal area that was a hot bed of alternative medicine and vaccine skepticism even before Covid.

I think all of this ultimately comes down whether or not someone trusts institutions and we are in a low-trust moment. Both the liberal and conservative edges don’t trust institutions.

[Ken]

The willingness to embrace conspiracy theories and pseudo-scientific medical quackery isn’t limited to those with low education or conservative politics. It’s one of those areas where the liberal and conservative edges converge. Boulder, CO is a wealthy, highly educated, liberal area that was a hot bed of alternative medicine and vaccine skepticism even before Covid.

I think all of this ultimately comes down whether or not someone trusts institutions and we are in a low-trust moment. Both the liberal and conservative edges don’t trust institutions.

That is true. Up until recently, the main anti-vax movement here on the west coast was centered in places like ultra-liberal Montessori and Waldorf schools in liberal college towns like Eugene. Those were the places that had, by far, the lowest student vaccination rates when in the pre-Covid days when it was mostly about Measles and MMR vaccines.

And the amount of fringe or alternative medicine practitioners in this part of the world is something to behold. I have highly-educated relatives living in the Seattle area who have gone head-first into that world and refuse to vaccinate their kids for any reason or any disease. Frankly the Amish have nothing on rich liberal educated enclaves when it comes to quackery.

[nett]

The willingness to embrace conspiracy theories and pseudo-scientific medical quackery isn’t limited to those with low education or conservative politics. It’s one of those areas where the liberal and conservative edges converge. Boulder, CO is a wealthy, highly educated, liberal area that was a hot bed of alternative medicine and vaccine skepticism even before Covid.

I think all of this ultimately comes down whether or not someone trusts institutions and we are in a low-trust moment. Both the liberal and conservative edges don’t trust institutions.

Is that unfounded?

Institutions have given us such wonders as

smoking for your health
thalidomide
opiate epidemic
drag shows for children
eugenics
benzos for everyone

Meanwhile, The number of children on antidepressants has soared. The institution of modern medicine has failed.

[Valerie]

The willingness to embrace conspiracy theories and pseudo-scientific medical quackery isn’t limited to those with low education or conservative politics. It’s one of those areas where the liberal and conservative edges converge. Boulder, CO is a wealthy, highly educated, liberal area that was a hot bed of alternative medicine and vaccine skepticism even before Covid.

I think all of this ultimately comes down whether or not someone trusts institutions and we are in a low-trust moment. Both the liberal and conservative edges don’t trust institutions.

That is true. Up until recently, the main anti-vax movement here on the west coast was centered in places like ultra-liberal Montessori and Waldorf schools in liberal college towns like Eugene. Those were the places that had, by far, the lowest student vaccination rates when in the pre-Covid days when it was mostly about Measles and MMR vaccines.

And the amount of fringe or alternative medicine practitioners in this part of the world is something to behold. I have highly-educated relatives living in the Seattle area who have gone head-first into that world and refuse to vaccinate their kids for any reason or any disease. Frankly the Amish have nothing on rich liberal educated enclaves when it comes to quackery.

Just what is your definition of quackery?
Don't you give it any thought as to why those with higher educations have turned away from conventional medicine? We have two former conventional physicians in my town alone that have turned away from conventional medicine and now practice holistic. Don't any of you question anything are you just blindly accept conventional medicine and big pharma practices?