Russ Douthat on Critical Race Theory

[Falco Underhill]

CRT adherents promote violence as long as it’s against property; indeed, their slogan is “no justice, no peace”.

The entire mindset is incompatible with Anabaptist Christianity.

It occurred to me that slogan perverts the Christian message:

Know justice, know peace.

[Ken]

CRT adherents promote violence as long as it’s against property; indeed, their slogan is “no justice, no peace”.

The entire mindset is incompatible with Anabaptist Christianity.

CRT is an esoteric academic theory. To the extent that it has "adherents" they are academics doing research in law schools and places like that.

I think you are confused with BLM activists, some of whom chanted "no justice no peace" at rallies, and few of whom have ever even heard of CRT much less know what it really is.

You don’t think the two are connected?

Not really. BLM activists aren't asking for more theoretical studies to be published in obscure journals. They are asking for simple concrete non-theoretical things.

[Bootstrap]

I think you are confused with BLM activists, some of whom chanted "no justice no peace" at rallies, and few of whom have ever even heard of CRT much less know what it really is.

You don’t think the two are connected?

No. This is like saying that everyone who voted for Trump is connected to Charlottesville or January 6th.

You keep repeating your claims without providing the quotes I have asked for. I don't think the people I have quoted so far are calling for violence, I don't think they are saying the things you claim they are saying. They don't seem to promote violence in the things I have read so far.

[Josh]

I think you are confused with BLM activists, some of whom chanted "no justice no peace" at rallies, and few of whom have ever even heard of CRT much less know what it really is.

You don’t think the two are connected?

No. This is like saying that everyone who voted for Trump is connected to Charlottesville or January 6th.

You keep repeating your claims without providing the quotes I have asked for. I don't think the people I have quoted so far are calling for violence, I don't think they are saying the things you claim they are saying. They don't seem to promote violence in the things I have read so far.

As I keep repeating, NH-J thinks property crimes is ok because it’s not “violence”.

Boot, if you really want to play this game, I will go find quotes from NH-J advocating for some extreme positions. Do you think that really is helpful?

I would never say that Biden voters support terrorism. I have not said anything close to that.
I am calling out NH-J for having extremist views, because she does.

[Ken]

You don’t think the two are connected?

No. This is like saying that everyone who voted for Trump is connected to Charlottesville or January 6th.

You keep repeating your claims without providing the quotes I have asked for. I don't think the people I have quoted so far are calling for violence, I don't think they are saying the things you claim they are saying. They don't seem to promote violence in the things I have read so far.

As I keep repeating, NH-J thinks property crimes is ok because it’s not “violence”.

Boot, if you really want to play this game, I will go find quotes from NH-J advocating for some extreme positions. Do you think that really is helpful?

I would never say that Biden voters support terrorism. I have not said anything close to that.
I am calling out NH-J for having extremist views, because she does.

As far as I know, NH-J has never said that property crimes are OK. What she has said is that they are not the moral equivalent of murder. Which is a position that is supported legally, morally, and biblically.

You seem to think that every single effort related to social justice and racism are all connected vis a vis some leftist cabal pulling all the strings. Which is patently ridiculous. They are no more connected than say a snake-handling Pentecostal church in Appalachia is connected to the Vatican. Or the cloistered Carmelite Nuns are connected to evangelical televangelists like Kenneth Copeland or Franklin Graham because they are all Christian and ostensibly all working towards the same end. The very notion is absurd. Just as it is absurd to connect some young local social justice organizers in California to an obscure academic at Harvard or a congresswoman from Ohio just because they are all concerned about racism.

[Bootstrap]

As I keep repeating, NH-J thinks property crimes is ok because it’s not “violence”.

Yes, you keep repeating that. No, you have not provided a quote in which she says anything like that. I don't think she has ever said property crime is OK. She did say it was disturbing.

Boot, if you really want to play this game, I will go find quotes from NH-J advocating for some extreme positions. Do you think that really is helpful?

The "game" I am playing in this thread involves picking articles and other things to discuss instead of repeating talking points. So yes, it would be helpful to point to something she has written and discuss the thrust of her thought.

[Josh]

As I keep repeating, NH-J thinks property crimes is ok because it’s not “violence”.

Yes, you keep repeating that. No, you have not provided a quote in which she says anything like that. I don't think she has ever said property crime is OK. She did say it was disturbing.

Boot, if you really want to play this game, I will go find quotes from NH-J advocating for some extreme positions. Do you think that really is helpful?

The "game" I am playing in this thread involves picking articles and other things to discuss instead of repeating talking points. So yes, it would be helpful to point to something she has written and discuss the thrust of her thought.

When I find some time, I’ll scroll through Twitter and find a few of her choicer statements.

[Szdfan]

As I keep repeating, NH-J thinks property crimes is ok because it’s not “violence”.

Yes, you keep repeating that. No, you have not provided a quote in which she says anything like that. I don't think she has ever said property crime is OK. She did say it was disturbing.

Boot, if you really want to play this game, I will go find quotes from NH-J advocating for some extreme positions. Do you think that really is helpful?

When you do, please provide links to the tweets.

The "game" I am playing in this thread involves picking articles and other things to discuss instead of repeating talking points. So yes, it would be helpful to point to something she has written and discuss the thrust of her thought.

When I find some time, I’ll scroll through Twitter and find a few of her choicer statements.

[Josh]

Yes, you keep repeating that. No, you have not provided a quote in which she says anything like that. I don't think she has ever said property crime is OK. She did say it was disturbing.


When you do, please provide links to the tweets.

The "game" I am playing in this thread involves picking articles and other things to discuss instead of repeating talking points. So yes, it would be helpful to point to something she has written and discuss the thrust of her thought.

When I find some time, I’ll scroll through Twitter and find a few of her choicer statements.

Endlessly finding citations to please Bootstrap (or you) isn’t the highest priority in my life. I think I had college professors who gave me A’s for papers with fewer references than what Boot demands. Talking to him is like doing post-doctoral research at The Ohio State University, with the defense committee having an especially grumpy day.

[Szdfan]

When I find some time, I’ll scroll through Twitter and find a few of her choicer statements.

Endlessly finding citations to please Bootstrap (or you) isn’t the highest priority in my life. I think I had college professors who gave me A’s for papers with fewer references than what Boot demands. Talking to him is like doing post-doctoral research at The Ohio State University, with the defense committee having an especially grumpy day.

All you have to do is cut and paste the link.

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