Fauci E-mails and Honesty

[Joy]

But he sure sounded like a target to me.

Do you mean that he was under investigation for some very serious things? That's true.

No, I mean that you targeted him. As in, and I quote you,

"The alternative, of course, is to stop turning people into targets...."

[Bootstrap]

But he sure sounded like a target to me.

Do you mean that he was under investigation for some very serious things? That's true.

No, I mean that you targeted him. As in, and I quote you,

"The alternative, of course, is to stop turning people into targets...."

You really, really don't want to let this topic be about the subject, do you?

I don't think you are being fair to me, and you seem to be making me a target, but I don't want to discuss THAT topic in all kinds of threads about OTHER topics. To me, it really does feel like another distraction from the topic itself. And I think you have done this in at least a handful of threads now.

Is there some reason we cannot discuss the subject of a thread in the thread, asking people to provide facts for the claims they make?

[Soloist]

Anyone want to link to the actual emails? rather then just commentaries on the stuff?
Personally, I'd hate my emails all over the internet...

[Joy]

Okay, Boot, have it your way. I frankly don't recognize myself in your post.

[Grace]

Fauci knew early on the virus came from a lab. He had to decide if he will reveal it came from the lab and if he did , it would make him complicit. Or he could lie and blame bats. He rallied scientists to blame the bats. He pointed the finger away from the lab as an origination point of the virus.

Now we know that Fauci’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, funneled money through The Health Eco Alliance into the Wuhun Lab. Fauci claims it didn’t go to “gain of function” research to make the virus more transmissible and more deadly. But He does NOT know that. We do know that money from the US potentially could have gone to create a virus that came back and killed over 600,000 people here in the US and 3 1/2 million across the globe. And that should be looked into.

I suspect that Fauci will become a huge detriment to the administration and it is just a matter of time until he will be gone.

[Soloist]

How many of you dug through these emails? there are three different sets of emails and the vast majority are fairly benign...

There are some large block redactions that are of interest...

https://assets.documentcloud.org/docume ... emails.pdf
https://www.icandecide.org/ican_press/i ... r-release/

The interesting thing is that the emails released by ICAN actually don't say what they claim they say... I looked at multiple of their examples and was unable to locate any of their examples. If anyone else wants to try and find the claims they make... feel free to show them to me but don't just quote news sites... go to the source.

[Ken]

Fauci knew early on the virus came from a lab. He had to decide if he will reveal it came from the lab and if he did , it would make him complicit. Or he could lie and blame bats. He rallied scientists to blame the bats. He pointed the finger away from the lab as an origination point of the virus.

In point of fact, there is no ACTUAL EVIDENCE regarding the virus' origin one way or the other. That is why scientists have been calling for more investigation.

"Certitude is not the test of certainty. We have been cocksure of many things that were not so."

--Oliver Wendell Holmes

[violet]

I've been reading the original emails that were released.

yes, there is a bit blocked out, but that is not surprising.

A lot of it is on the masks, which is what certain groups seem to be focused on. I am not all that interested in the mask debate. My interest lies elsewhere. So, depending on how invested you are in the mask debate, you may find the emails either interesting or highly boring.

It is a lot to read and sift through, so it will take time.

It fascinates me what was on the front page of the Times and how this is just not in the news. So either it will be a great story or a dud. I guess time will tell. It is equally fascinating that these were released and the tracks were not covered. It all makes for interesting reading.

edited to add...there is always an agenda. Always.

I highly doubt these emails will change anything honestly. I just like to read. It will most likely just fuel the divide, anger up the two sides, provide more back and forth as people defend their belief systems.

Which is why I am not all that interested in debating with people. It is best to just read and listen, that is how one really learns things.

[violet]

this is the other side of the great debate to the ICAN site that Soloist posted if you are interested in reading the juice from both sides..


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... z74dlA5xkg

[temporal1]

Honestly, Fauci has more or less become a human Rorschach Test. People's opinion about him tell us more about THEM then it does about him.

I agree. Fauci is the high priest of the religion of Covidianism.
Those who support Fauci are devout Covidians and their faith will not be shaken by mere facts.

2005 / The Word: Truthiness
https://www.cc.com/video/63ite2/the-col ... truthiness

How the world has since amplified this regrettable (i believe, Bill Clinton era gift).

True Believers - 4 definitions
https://www.yourdictionary.com/true-believer

A dedicated follower or disciple, esp. a person whose devotion to another, a cause, etc. is blind or unquestioning.
noun

(ecclesiastical) A strict follower of a religious doctrine.
noun

(idiomatic) One who sticks to one's dogma or beliefs irrespective of the facts (see true believer syndrome).
noun

One who is deeply, sometimes fanatically devoted to a cause, organization, or person.

Interesting to note, on this topic, the True Believers are having trouble digesting the fact their go-to sources are doing the questioning. (i believe) this is because their truly #1 goal of removal of the prior admin, has been achieved, thus freeing them up to include a bit of balance.

Retain low expectations. They won’t stray too far.