justme wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:13 pm
anabaptists own the women's headcovering in the sense that it is an identifier for each specific split off group.
those of you who live amongst several variations of "coppa liet", i'm sure you've met someone who you don't know, but you know which church they go to, just by the size and shape of their covering.
Yes it does "identify". When we attend the various and a Baptist held benefit auctions in Holmes county ohio, it's gotten pretty easy for me to identify the different sex of anabaptist by head covering and dress, from old order Amish, to Old order Amish from Pennsylvania versus ohio, to Holdeman (rate to see them at auctiona), to German Baptists, etc.
I think what's particularly distinctive about the anabaptist is that their women cover outside of church service, the other denominations that I've attended they cover during the church service, but not necessarily outside of the church service. I think an exception to that would be one type of the Church of the Nazarene, I see those women wear a type of covering when they're out in public.
justme wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:13 pm
anabaptists own the women's headcovering in the sense that it is an identifier for each specific split off group.
those of you who live amongst several variations of "coppa liet", i'm sure you've met someone who you don't know, but you know which church they go to, just by the size and shape of their covering.
Yes it does "identify". When we attend the various and a Baptist held benefit auctions in Holmes county ohio, it's gotten pretty easy for me to identify the different sex of anabaptist by head covering and dress, from old order Amish, to Old order Amish from Pennsylvania versus ohio, to Holdeman (rate to see them at auctiona), to German Baptists, etc.
I think what's particularly distinctive about the anabaptist is that their women cover outside of church service, the other denominations that I've attended they cover during the church service, but not necessarily outside of the church service. I think an exception to that would be one type of the Church of the Nazarene, I see those women wear a type of covering when they're out in public.
Yes, it is generally very easy to identify whether an Amish, Old Order Amish, or German baptist is male or female based on type of headgear and/or clothing.
justme wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:13 pm
anabaptists own the women's headcovering in the sense that it is an identifier for each specific split off group.
those of you who live amongst several variations of "coppa liet", i'm sure you've met someone who you don't know, but you know which church they go to, just by the size and shape of their covering.
Ah, yes! We had a lot of fun at our first Mennonite Disaster Service all unit conference. The Amish at Shipshewana who sponsored the event and served the meals were busy trying to identify the different groups. My wife and I were such a bafflement that we were queried directly by one Amishman, and chatting with him I learned what they were up to and that the head covering was the primary group identifier.
Wayne in Maine wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 6:14 pm
I look at the Amish, Mennonite and Hutterite practice of veiling/head covering as a hermeneutic that women wear on their heads - it is done in simple obedience to what an Apostle of Jesus stated, showing that these people take a serious and "literal" approach to what Jesus commanded, in his own words and through his inspired apostle's writings.
I like this way of looking at it.
Valerie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:43 pm
it's gotten pretty easy for me to identify the different sex of anabaptist by head covering and dress
Simply based on women's dress style and headcovering, I can pretty much ID anyone from the Horning church, as they're one of the few that still require strings on the coverings. EPMC is pretty easy. Pilgrim and Hope can blur a bit. KMF and BMA can start to blur as well. Dunkard Brethren are pretty easy. The Charity types can get tricky (no rules, just right!) at least in our area.
steve-in-kville wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 6:31 am
Simply based on women's dress style and headcovering, I can pretty much ID anyone from the Horning church, as they're one of the few that still require strings on the coverings. EPMC is pretty easy. Pilgrim and Hope can blur a bit. KMF and BMA can start to blur as well. Dunkard Brethren are pretty easy. The Charity types can get tricky (no rules, just right!) at least in our area.
Same here. The Weverland Conference (Horning Church) and Groffdale Conference (Jo Wenger Church) are very distinct in their dress and and covering styles.
None of this has to do with head coverings tho. One could as well say the Anabaptists own the vehicle, as Amish people identify each other by different styles of buggies, and Mennonites examine what types of cars people have, thus determining such identities as “black car Mennonites”.
Wayne in Maine wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 6:14 pm
I look at the Amish, Mennonite and Hutterite practice of veiling/head covering as a hermeneutic that women wear on their heads - it is done in simple obedience to what an Apostle of Jesus stated, showing that these people take a serious and "literal" approach to what Jesus commanded, in his own words and through his inspired apostle's writings.
I like this way of looking at it.
Valerie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:43 pm
it's gotten pretty easy for me to identify the different sex of anabaptist by head covering and dress
Josh wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 6:41 am
None of this has to do with head coverings tho. One could as well say the Anabaptists own the vehicle, as Amish people identify each other by different styles of buggies, and Mennonites examine what types of cars people have, thus determining such identities as “black car Mennonites”.
Well it certainly moved away from the original meaning and understanding. It's great that anabaptists are known for being obedient to literal scripture. But to miss the actual original meaning I really appreciate the Eastern Orthodox explanation of head covering, it really deep in the meaning for me personally.
Valerie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:43 pm
Yes it does "identify". When we attend the various and a Baptist held benefit auctions in Holmes county ohio, it's gotten pretty easy for me to identify the different sex of anabaptist by head covering and dress, from old order Amish, to Old order Amish from Pennsylvania versus ohio, to Holdeman (rate to see them at auctiona), to German Baptists, etc.
You meant "different sects" right?
I was assuming this was auto-correct at its finest when you typed that!