Righteous Anger & Covid 19

When it just doesn't fit anywhere else.
Valerie

Re: Righteous Anger & Covid 19

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Bootstrap wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 4:47 pm One good way to start fact-checking something like this is to Google "fact check Zev Zelenko".

Some reason to be skeptical of Vladimir "Zev" Zelenko:

Jewish MD who promoted virus cocktail is leaving community where he tested it

He had to leave the Orthodox community where he had practiced medicine because of this Covid stuff. Not a great sign of confidence. His religious community wrote an open letter that said this:
We the undersigned institutions strongly believe that the predictions presented by Dr. Zelenko have been proven false and are not supported by the overall medical establishment, specifically in his wild conclusions as to the spread of the virus in our community.
Doctor Who Promoted Malarial Drug Draws Scrutiny of Federal Prosectors
A federal prosecutor has opened a preliminary inquiry into whether an obscure New York doctor who won White House attention by claiming he could treat the coronavirus broke the law by falsely claiming that a hospital study of drugs he had promoted had won federal approval.

The doctor, Vladimir Zelenko, wrongly claimed that the Food and Drug Administration had backed a study of a drug cocktail that he asserts is effective in treating Covid-19, the disease caused by the virus. Through a misdirected email, that claim came to the attention of Aaron Zelinsky, a federal prosecutor in Baltimore working on fraud cases arising out of the pandemic.

Dr. Zelenko, known as Zev, had claimed the study had the F.D.A.’s approval to Jerome Corsi, a conservative commentator who figured in the special counsel’s investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election. Mr. Corsi then repeated that claim in an email he mistakenly directed to Mr. Zelinsky instead of to the physician, he said in a podcast this week.
Misleading claims resurface online about hydroxychloroquine's efficacy against COVID-19
The Zelenko footage emerged a day after he published an open letter asserting the same to US President Donald Trump.

But Zelenko did not provide any evidence to support his claims, and reportedly sparked the interest of federal investigators after an email gaffe by a conservative commentator in which he claimed the doctor had “an FDA approved randomized test of HCQ underway” -- which was not true.
Did you watch it in its entirety?? You should.
Many doctors had treatments that were effective & had "0" deaths of patients (They were at the "Health & Freedom livestream conference i attended) and kept covid patients from hospitalization as well.

Yes, i have heard from enough physicians who also are Believers to be convinced that those who came against such effective treatments, are responsible for the deaths of thousands. Quite obviously, "their' choice of treatments didn't prevent deaths.He was nominated for Nobel Peace Prize exactly because pf lives saved-
Watch the video, & find out why other countries have turned to him

Im not respectful then of fact checkers & their agendas
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Bootstrap

Re: Righteous Anger & Covid 19

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Valerie wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 6:05 pm Did you watch it in its entirety?? You should.
Please write out any specific claims you would like to have fact-checked. Based on what I found in a few minutes, I don't think this is credible enough to justify an hour or more of my life. Even the Orthodox Jewish community where he had worked as a doctor kicked him out and disowned him, making a public statement that said he was lying.

Checking facts is a lot more efficient than wading through emotional Youtube videos designed to rile us up.
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Bootstrap

Re: Righteous Anger & Covid 19

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Valerie wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 6:05 pm He was nominated for Nobel Peace Prize exactly because pf lives saved-
If there was a valid nomination for the Peace Prize, I don't think we can verify it for 50 years, the secrecy period. Did a qualified nominator say they had nominated him? Or is this some social media thing?

Can you show me anything from the Nobel Committee that indicates they believe he saved lives and should be considered for a Nobel Peace Prize?
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Valerie

Re: Righteous Anger & Covid 19

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Bootstrap wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 6:47 pm
Valerie wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 6:05 pm He was nominated for Nobel Peace Prize exactly because pf lives saved-
If there was a valid nomination for the Peace Prize, I don't think we can verify it for 50 years, the secrecy period. Did a qualified nominator say they had nominated him? Or is this some social media thing?

Can you show me anything from the Nobel Committee that indicates they believe he saved lives and should be considered for a Nobel Peace Prize?
Watch the video
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Bootstrap

Re: Righteous Anger & Covid 19

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Valerie wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 6:58 pm
Bootstrap wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 6:47 pm
Valerie wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 6:05 pm He was nominated for Nobel Peace Prize exactly because pf lives saved-
If there was a valid nomination for the Peace Prize, I don't think we can verify it for 50 years, the secrecy period. Did a qualified nominator say they had nominated him? Or is this some social media thing?

Can you show me anything from the Nobel Committee that indicates they believe he saved lives and should be considered for a Nobel Peace Prize?
Watch the video
That's not an answer to my questions.
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Josh

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For what it’s worth, I’d consider someone less credible if they have a recent Nobel prize; for example, the peace prize seems to be given to warmongers and terrorists.
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Valerie

Re: Righteous Anger & Covid 19

Post by Valerie »

Bootstrap wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 7:01 pm
Valerie wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 6:58 pm
Bootstrap wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 6:47 pm

If there was a valid nomination for the Peace Prize, I don't think we can verify it for 50 years, the secrecy period. Did a qualified nominator say they had nominated him? Or is this some social media thing?

Can you show me anything from the Nobel Committee that indicates they believe he saved lives and should be considered for a Nobel Peace Prize?
Watch the video
That's not an answer to my questions.
You may not have questions acter you watch the video. What you suggest im implyg is silly. Im saying arrests because i feel the "prevention of credible treatments is a crime worthy of punisment
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Valerie

Re: Righteous Anger & Covid 19

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Josh wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 7:29 pm For what it’s worth, I’d consider someone less credible if they have a recent Nobel prize; for example, the peace prize seems to be given to warmongers and terrorists.
I agree. But not this man. He deserves the recognition of his work, but he gives glory to Vod for putting it in his mind
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ohio jones

Re: Righteous Anger & Covid 19

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Valerie wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 7:42 pm
Josh wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 7:29 pm For what it’s worth, I’d consider someone less credible if they have a recent Nobel prize; for example, the peace prize seems to be given to warmongers and terrorists.
I agree. But not this man. He deserves the recognition of his work, but he gives glory to Vod for putting it in his mind
Perhaps that belongs in this thread? :P
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Valerie

Re: Righteous Anger & Covid 19

Post by Valerie »

ohio jones wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 8:55 pm
Valerie wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 7:42 pm
Josh wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 7:29 pm For what it’s worth, I’d consider someone less credible if they have a recent Nobel prize; for example, the peace prize seems to be given to warmongers and terrorists.
I agree. But not this man. He deserves the recognition of his work, but he gives glory to Vod for putting it in his mind
Perhaps that belongs in this thread? :P
Oh good grief. It would be most appreciated to be able to edit
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