Robert wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:15 pm
Row v Wade dictates that someone's medical history is no one else's business. It will block any vaccine passports as soon as they are challenged.
SO how will anyone know if I had it or not because I can't be asked if I have had it. HIPAA and ADA laws.
No it will not. Vaccine passports are not something the government is likely to issue or require. It is something that foreign countries and businesses are likely to require. For boarding a cruise ship, for example. Or traveling to another country. When I first traveled to Guatemala in the mid 1980s I had to carry a yellow WHO vaccine passport showing that I had been vaccinated for yellow fever and some other diseases that I don't remember. They checked it at immigrations.
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A fool can throw out more questions than a wise man can answer. -RZehr
Ken wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:14 pmAre you going to lock down Holmes Co. and prevent any visitors or tourists from coming from places like NYC or NJ this summer?
Nope. The place is open and is welcoming visitors - and judging by the licence plates, quite a few are from out of state.
Robert wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:15 pm
Row v Wade dictates that someone's medical history is no one else's business. It will block any vaccine passports as soon as they are challenged.
SO how will anyone know if I had it or not because I can't be asked if I have had it. HIPAA and ADA laws.
No it will not. Vaccine passports are not something the government is likely to issue or require. It is something that foreign countries and businesses are likely to require. For boarding a cruise ship, for example. Or traveling to another country. When I first traveled to Guatemala in the mid 1980s I had to carry a yellow WHO vaccine passport showing that I had been vaccinated for yellow fever and some other diseases that I don't remember. They checked it at immigrations.
If this becomes common, you can expect these credentials to be widely forged, as they are already are in other places.
Right now, if someone really does want a vaccine passport, you can just call your doctor and tell them you got a vaccine. There is no national registry or tracking system. It will enter your record and your vaccine card will be filled out at your next visit. I still have my WHO care from the 1980s for vaccines I had to get as a child before I could enter the U.S. The entries were hand filled out.
The pure insanity of trying to require every human to get the COVID vaccine under threat of banishment from society needs to be thought through a little better by the likes of those on the left. Go ahead and do it - you're simply promoting the creation of an alternative society of people who don't want to be controlled every second of every day. And there is already a strong and robust anti-vaccine movement which is just chomping at the bit for something like this to happen.
So the ones that stay, have to risk death or sickness from volcano fumes and smoke and ash. So that a few different peoples risk of getting sniffles from virus is lowered.
Robert wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:15 pm
Row v Wade dictates that someone's medical history is no one else's business. It will block any vaccine passports as soon as they are challenged.
SO how will anyone know if I had it or not because I can't be asked if I have had it. HIPAA and ADA laws.
No it will not. Vaccine passports are not something the government is likely to issue or require. It is something that foreign countries and businesses are likely to require. For boarding a cruise ship, for example. Or traveling to another country. When I first traveled to Guatemala in the mid 1980s I had to carry a yellow WHO vaccine passport showing that I had been vaccinated for yellow fever and some other diseases that I don't remember. They checked it at immigrations.
If this becomes common, you can expect these credentials to be widely forged, as they are already are in other places.
Right now, if someone really does want a vaccine passport, you can just call your doctor and tell them you got a vaccine. There is no national registry or tracking system. It will enter your record and your vaccine card will be filled out at your next visit. I still have my WHO care from the 1980s for vaccines I had to get as a child before I could enter the U.S. The entries were hand filled out.
The pure insanity of trying to require every human to get the COVID vaccine under threat of banishment from society needs to be thought through a little better by the likes of those on the left. Go ahead and do it - you're simply promoting the creation of an alternative society of people who don't want to be controlled every second of every day. And there is already a strong and robust anti-vaccine movement which is just chomping at the bit for something like this to happen.
Some maybe. I expect most people will just get the free vaccine rather than go through all the trouble to try a forge documents. In short order we will be past the point of vaccine shortage and it will be available for free for anyone walking into a pharmacy without an appointment, just like the flu shot is every fall.
I don’t actually expect a Covid passport to ever happen. I do expect proof of vaccination to be required for certain jobs and activities like cruise ship travel and some international travel. Basically activities for which there is a screening process in place anyway. You don’t board an airline or cruise ship without showing a lot of documents. Will people be able to fake it? Sure. But say for example United Airlines decides to require vaccines for all flight crews. If you are a flight attendant and decide to forge your vaccine certificate or shot record and that fact is later discovered, you’d likely be let go for fraud. Just like for any other lie you chose to put onto your job application. If you tried to enter a foreign country with forged documents you’d likely be in a world of hurt. Most customs and immigration agencies have zero sense of humor about that sort of thing.
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A fool can throw out more questions than a wise man can answer. -RZehr
So the ones that stay, have to risk death or sickness from volcano fumes and smoke and ash. So that a few different peoples risk of getting sniffles from virus is lowered.
It's a sad state so many are supporting, again as they justify doing these things out of love, including vaccines profited by abortion...
No it will not. Vaccine passports are not something the government is likely to issue or require. It is something that foreign countries and businesses are likely to require. For boarding a cruise ship, for example. Or traveling to another country. When I first traveled to Guatemala in the mid 1980s I had to carry a yellow WHO vaccine passport showing that I had been vaccinated for yellow fever and some other diseases that I don't remember. They checked it at immigrations.
If this becomes common, you can expect these credentials to be widely forged, as they are already are in other places.
Right now, if someone really does want a vaccine passport, you can just call your doctor and tell them you got a vaccine. There is no national registry or tracking system. It will enter your record and your vaccine card will be filled out at your next visit. I still have my WHO care from the 1980s for vaccines I had to get as a child before I could enter the U.S. The entries were hand filled out.
The pure insanity of trying to require every human to get the COVID vaccine under threat of banishment from society needs to be thought through a little better by the likes of those on the left. Go ahead and do it - you're simply promoting the creation of an alternative society of people who don't want to be controlled every second of every day. And there is already a strong and robust anti-vaccine movement which is just chomping at the bit for something like this to happen.
Some maybe. I expect most people will just get the free vaccine rather than go through all the trouble to try a forge documents. In short order we will be past the point of vaccine shortage and it will be available for free for anyone walking into a pharmacy without an appointment, just like the flu shot is every fall.
I don’t actually expect a Covid passport to ever happen. I do expect proof of vaccination to be required for certain jobs and activities like cruise ship travel and some international travel. Basically activities for which there is a screening process in place anyway. You don’t board an airline or cruise ship without showing a lot of documents. Will people be able to fake it? Sure. But say for example United Airlines decides to require vaccines for all flight crews. If you are a flight attendant and decide to forge your vaccine certificate or shot record and that fact is later discovered, you’d likely be let go for fraud. Just like for any other lie you chose to put onto your job application. If you tried to enter a foreign country with forged documents you’d likely be in a world of hurt. Most customs and immigration agencies have zero sense of humor about that sort of thing.
You missed my entire point Ken. It is extremely easy and untraceable to simply call your primary care doctor and tell them you got vaccinated. Then update your vaccine card at your next visit.
The document won’t be a “forgery”, it will look exactly like a person who did get the aborted-fetus injection. The only way they could detect this is some kind of blood test which as of right now doesn’t exist.
