Robert wrote:I seriously do not understand the rampant fear. Yes Covid is serious, but mostly to elderly. The death rate of Covid is less then the flu to all ages except over 65.
This means protect the vulnerable but allow the rest to get asymptomatic cases and become immunity for those at risk. I really think our national plan is totally wrong.
What reports are you listening to Robert? Maybe your experience is different than mine, but "rampant fear" doesn't nearly define what I'm experiencing from those who are taking COVID-19 seriously. People are adjusting to life's challenges like they always do. They are masking, distancing, limiting travel and business capacities, washing their hands...and going about their lives, wisely listening to their public health experts and doctors, respecting the disease that has suddenly become the third largest killer of Americans, and doing their best for the greater good.
Evidently, one person's fear is another person's prudence.
ohio jones wrote:
What people say and what people actually do can be different things. This site has a mask use map showing the percentage of masking by state, and there's nothing above 60%. Maybe there's a selection bias in the people who respond to polls like this.
I question the data for my home state, and I do not understand how they got that data. Indoors, when you cannot distance from unrelated people, like retail, I see near 100% compliance in Baltimore City, Baltimore County, Harford county and Howard County. In western maryland, it may be another matter, BUT in it's high population urban core, the compliance seems to be good.
One friend told me a story. In their municipality a restaurant MUST enforce the mask rule, or face a 1000$ fine. He will gladly serve maskless customers....if they leave a 1000$ cash deposit, in case an inspector shows up. He has had no takers.
Robert wrote:I seriously do not understand the rampant fear. Yes Covid is serious, but mostly to elderly. The death rate of Covid is less then the flu to all ages except over 65.
This means protect the vulnerable but allow the rest to get asymptomatic cases and become immunity for those at risk. I really think our national plan is totally wrong.
What reports are you listening to Robert? Maybe your experience is different than mine, but "rampant fear" doesn't nearly define what I'm experiencing from those who are taking COVID-19 seriously. People are adjusting to life's challenges like they always do. They are masking, distancing, limiting travel and business capacities, washing their hands...and going about their lives, wisely listening to their public health experts and doctors, respecting the disease that has suddenly become the third largest killer of Americans, and doing their best for the greater good.
Evidently, one person's fear is another person's prudence.
What I see around here is not fear. But rather people growing less and less tolerant of the bad behavior and stupidity that is endlessly prolonging this pandemic. Like, for example here in the Pacific Northwest:
Unfortunately for Trump, I think he picked the wrong side on this one. The cavalier attitude of the White House towards this pandemic is wearing thin. Actually, picking a side at all was the wrong move for a president and just unnecessarily divisive. He should be leading, not following.
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Dan Z wrote:
What reports are you listening to Robert? Maybe your experience is different than mine, but "rampant fear" doesn't nearly define what I'm experiencing from those who are taking COVID-19 seriously. People are adjusting to life's challenges like they always do. They are masking, distancing, limiting travel and business capacities, washing their hands...and going about their lives, wisely listening to their public health experts and doctors, respecting the disease that has suddenly become the third largest killer of Americans, and doing their best for the greater good.
Evidently, one person's fear is another person's prudence.
Those screaming and hollering at people not complying to their standards. The totalitarian lockdowns and regulations from governors. The arrests and tazing of people for not complying to unconstitutional mandates. What is driving that if not fear?
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Dan Z wrote:
What reports are you listening to Robert? Maybe your experience is different than mine, but "rampant fear" doesn't nearly define what I'm experiencing from those who are taking COVID-19 seriously. People are adjusting to life's challenges like they always do. They are masking, distancing, limiting travel and business capacities, washing their hands...and going about their lives, wisely listening to their public health experts and doctors, respecting the disease that has suddenly become the third largest killer of Americans, and doing their best for the greater good.
Evidently, one person's fear is another person's prudence.
Those screaming and hollering at people not complying to their standards. The totalitarian lockdowns and regulations from governors. The arrests and tazing of people for not complying to unconstitutional mandates. What is driving that if not fear?
Responsibility for the well being of others? Obedience to the civil authorities set up by God and his ministers the state. It really does matter that we as Christians need obey the state as much as possible.
The constitution is not of God and people who look to it for guidance are “teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.” Matt 15:9
Dan Z wrote:
What reports are you listening to Robert? Maybe your experience is different than mine, but "rampant fear" doesn't nearly define what I'm experiencing from those who are taking COVID-19 seriously. People are adjusting to life's challenges like they always do. They are masking, distancing, limiting travel and business capacities, washing their hands...and going about their lives, wisely listening to their public health experts and doctors, respecting the disease that has suddenly become the third largest killer of Americans, and doing their best for the greater good.
Evidently, one person's fear is another person's prudence.
Those screaming and hollering at people not complying to their standards. The totalitarian lockdowns and regulations from governors. The arrests and tazing of people for not complying to unconstitutional mandates. What is driving that if not fear?
Not excusing rudeness at all (I tend to be more libertarian about this whole thing in practice to be honest), but think about this: Rather than fear, I suspect it is often a sense of civic duty and the greater good that drives their reaction, and disgust at those who would flaunt community standards and put every one else at risk - bringing about reactions similar to yelling at the jay walker, or honking at the guy who runs a stop-sign, or confronting the sweaty shirtless guy in the McDonalds. Nobody likes wearing a mask (or stopping at at stop-signs for that matter), but I suspect those who dutifully do it struggle with seeing the standard flaunted by those who choose not to.
Robert wrote:I seriously do not understand the rampant fear. Yes Covid is serious, but mostly to elderly. The death rate of Covid is less then the flu to all ages except over 65.
This means protect the vulnerable but allow the rest to get asymptomatic cases and become immunity for those at risk. I really think our national plan is totally wrong.
What reports are you listening to Robert? Maybe your experience is different than mine, but "rampant fear" doesn't nearly define what I'm experiencing from those who are taking COVID-19 seriously. People are adjusting to life's challenges like they always do. They are masking, distancing, limiting travel and business capacities, washing their hands...and going about their lives, wisely listening to their public health experts and doctors, respecting the disease that has suddenly become the third largest killer of Americans, and doing their best for the greater good.
Evidently, one person's fear is another person's prudence.
What I see around here is not fear. But rather people growing less and less tolerant of the bad behavior and stupidity that is endlessly prolonging this pandemic. Like, for example here in the Pacific Northwest:
Unfortunately for Trump, I think he picked the wrong side on this one. The cavalier attitude of the White House towards this pandemic is wearing thin. Actually, picking a side at all was the wrong move for a president and just unnecessarily divisive. He should be leading, not following.
The only way he can win is to divide. I think he thought this would cause a division that worked in his favor.
This guy has no coherent policy, he “talks out of both sides of his mouth “
Dan Z wrote:
What reports are you listening to Robert? Maybe your experience is different than mine, but "rampant fear" doesn't nearly define what I'm experiencing from those who are taking COVID-19 seriously. People are adjusting to life's challenges like they always do. They are masking, distancing, limiting travel and business capacities, washing their hands...and going about their lives, wisely listening to their public health experts and doctors, respecting the disease that has suddenly become the third largest killer of Americans, and doing their best for the greater good.
Evidently, one person's fear is another person's prudence.
Those screaming and hollering at people not complying to their standards. The totalitarian lockdowns and regulations from governors. The arrests and tazing of people for not complying to unconstitutional mandates. What is driving that if not fear?
Not excusing rudeness at all (I tend to be more libertarian about this whole thing in practice to be honest), but think about this: Rather than fear, I suspect it is often a sense of civic duty and fairness that drives their reaction, and disgust at those who would flaunt community standards and put every one else at risk - bringing about reactions similar to yelling at the jay walker, or honking at the guy who runs a stop-sign, or confronting the sweaty shirtless guy in the McDonalds. Nobody likes wearing a mask (or stopping at at stop-signs for that matter), but I suspect those who dutifully do it struggle with seeing the standard flaunted by those who don't.
Especially since he is putting others in danger, not himself.
Robert wrote:I seriously do not understand the rampant fear. Yes Covid is serious, but mostly to elderly. The death rate of Covid is less then the flu to all ages except over 65.
This means protect the vulnerable but allow the rest to get asymptomatic cases and become immunity for those at risk. I really think our national plan is totally wrong.
What reports are you listening to Robert? Maybe your experience is different than mine, but "rampant fear" doesn't nearly define what I'm experiencing from those who are taking COVID-19 seriously. People are adjusting to life's challenges like they always do. They are masking, distancing, limiting travel and business capacities, washing their hands...and going about their lives, wisely listening to their public health experts and doctors, respecting the disease that has suddenly become the third largest killer of Americans, and doing their best for the greater good.
Evidently, one person's fear is another person's prudence.
I know personally of two cases of almost debilitating fear, in both cases someone who I would have considered balanced, pre-covid.
