Kingdom Christian and Charity Movements

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Soloist

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Wade wrote: I appreciate no one outside partaking because when communion is closed to anyone outside it means we don't have to judge. When there is a mixing of letting certain people outside partake and not others it just sounds like a club and more about who you know than the body of Christ.
That was my conclusion based on my time with Charity. I've seen it go badly wrong... and cause offense.
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Ernie

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Wade wrote:I appreciate no one outside partaking because when communion is closed to anyone outside it means we don't have to judge. When there is a mixing of letting certain people outside partake and not others it just sounds like a club and more about who you know than the body of Christ.
Just curious if the congregation you are attending does "closed" or "close"? People from outside the congregation? from outside the fellowship?
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Soloist

Re: Kingdom Christian and Charity Movements

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Ernie wrote:
Wade wrote:I appreciate no one outside partaking because when communion is closed to anyone outside it means we don't have to judge. When there is a mixing of letting certain people outside partake and not others it just sounds like a club and more about who you know than the body of Christ.
Just curious if the congregation you are attending does "closed" or "close"? People from outside the congregation? from outside the fellowship?

His group wouldn't allow me to take communion. Not out of judgement but because of separation of fellowship lines. Likewise the same would be true the other way around. The exception to this would be with school teachers.
Now I could transfer membership and take communion at his group... That being said, I doubt I could if I transferred within a month of communion. It does seem like ministry gets more of a pass among conservative groups from what I've heard.
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Wade

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Ernie wrote:
Wade wrote:I appreciate no one outside partaking because when communion is closed to anyone outside it means we don't have to judge. When there is a mixing of letting certain people outside partake and not others it just sounds like a club and more about who you know than the body of Christ.
Just curious if the congregation you are attending does "closed" or "close"? People from outside the congregation? from outside the fellowship?
I'm not actually completely sure. I thought it was closed but I could be wrong...

I don't know if communion has even happened yet at this new church plant? But what I understand is that normally there is a meeting prior to communion where each member shares their testimonies,asks for prayer with struggles, and confesses any sins that may have not been dealt with, and so someone showing up on Sunday from outside is already not part of the processes that are accuring in a group with this type of accountability. My experience with intermediates is they do the same - at one intermediate communion where a couple who were members were away for the meeting prior they were able to give testimony on Sunday morning but I'm not sure this would work with someone outside the local congregation?

I recall on one of David Bercots CD's that he said the early church allowed communion outside your own congregation if you had a recent letter from your Bishop saying you were in good standing with your local congregation to partake elsewhere.
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Soloist

Re: Kingdom Christian and Charity Movements

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Wade wrote: I'm not actually completely sure. I thought it was closed but I could be wrong...

I don't know if communion has even happened yet at this new church plant? But what I understand is that normally there is a meeting prior to communion where each member shares their testimonies,asks for prayer with struggles, and confesses any sins that may have not been dealt with, and so someone showing up on Sunday from outside is already not part of the processes that are accuring in a group with this type of accountability. My experience with intermediates is they do the same - at one intermediate communion where a couple who were members were away for the meeting prior they were able to give testimony on Sunday morning but I'm not sure this would work with someone outside the local congregation?

I recall on one of David Bercots CD's that he said the early church allowed communion outside your own congregation if you had a recent letter from your Bishop saying you were in good standing with your local congregation to partake elsewhere.
Its considered close, but unless you belong to NW its closed. The overseeing bishop assuming it has one and not its own would have to be there to do communion.
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