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P.5 / 2024 Border Legislation viewtopic.php?t=6456&start=40

Grace wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:50 am

Migrants are seeking to become Americans and assimilate into American society.
They aren't coming to militarily overthrow the government or seize territory.

P.40 /Bunny Trails: Politics viewtopic.php?t=3487&start=390

Grace wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:14 am Four of the illegal migrants who brutally beat and pummeled NYPD police in Times Square were released without bail by none other than Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg. The illegal criminal migrants then acquired phony names and got tickets and left the city for a sanctuary state, California, and free to commit more crimes.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... y-have-fl/

https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-migr ... mes-square

Meanwhile, peaceful hymn singing, praying, pro life people, who demonstrated at an abortion clinic, could face up to 10 years in prison and fines over $200,000.

https://www.ncregister.com/cna/six-pro- ... -in-prison

https://www.foxnews.com/media/pro-life- ... bidens-doj

NBC
“N.Y. Gov. Hochul says reported migrants who attacked NYPD officers in Times Square should be deported”
“If someone commits a crime against a police officer in the state of New York and they’re not here legally,”
it’s “definitely worth checking into,” Gov. Kathy Hochul said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ny ... rcna136800

NEW YORK POST
Marine vet Daniel Penny’s lawyer blasts ‘very confounding’ release of migrant mob who assaulted NYC cops without bail
https://www.foxnews.com/us/daniel-penny ... onfounding

Thanks Temp, for starting this thread.

Grace wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:28 pm Thanks Temp, for starting this thread.

You’re welcome. Don’t be a stranger.

Seeing NY GOV HOCHEL’s “YES”/“maybe” response made me think of the reports you posted.
The NBC reporting reflected the “dizzying” language in just their own headline words.

Talking out of both sides of their mouths - in the same statement. Not taking a breath in between.

It’s a combination of bad policies AND poor reporting.

Grace wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:28 pm Thanks Temp, for starting this thread.

NY POST / NYC inks another set of emergency hotel contracts to house migrants — at $137M price tag
https://nypost.com/2024/02/01/metro/nyc ... -for-137m/

^^o.look.
when you make really bad decisions, refuse to use foresight, refuse to think+plan, refuse common sense,
you get to pay the price - with other peoples’ money.

“There is not enough tea in China” to correct this.
https://www.statista.com/topics/4688/te ... -in-china/

Distraction:

Bomb Syria and Iraq
viewtopic.php?t=6480
with other peoples’ money.

Migrants believed to have fled NYC after NYPD cop-beating can’t be arrested because they were freed without bail
https://nypost.com/2024/02/02/metro/mig ... hout-bail/

The migrants who may have hopped on a bus to California after being busted in the caught-on-video beatdown of two NYPD cops
couldn’t be arrested even if law enforcement tracked them down — because they were already freed without bail.

John Miller, a former top NYPD official and CNN’s chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst pointed out the bail issue in an interview on the network Friday, saying that it’s “stirred a lot of controversy about the criminal justice reform and the assault on the police officers.”

Police believe the group of four — Darwin Andres Gomez, 19, Kelvin Servita Arocha, 19, Wilson Juarez, 21, and Yorman Reveron, 24 — may have skipped town Wednesday after giving phony names to a church-affiliated nonprofit group that helps migrants get rides out of the city, sources previously told The Post.

Miller, the NYPD’s former deputy commissioner of Intelligence and Counterterrorism, said the asylum-seeking suspects boarded a bus headed to Calexico – a California city on the Mexico border – by way of St. Louis, Missouri. ..

Sadly, text continues.

This probably explains Gov Hochul’s double talk above.
Pandering to those who would want them in jail, KNOWING there was no way that would happen, due to her tribe’s policies.

Worse is happening.

NYC is now handing out credit cards with $35 or so a day on them to migrants. They can spend roughly $1000 a month for a typical situation.

They have to sign a piece of paper saying it will only be spent at bodegas, restaurants, grocery stores, or on baby items.

Hard working Americans don’t get a government funded credit card. But break laws and show up illegally? Get a free credit card you don’t have to pay back.

Yesterday I was hearing about a local Venezuelan refugee couple. This couple is here legally, just recently arrived. Middle class in Venezuela, flat broke here. Sold their nice home in Venezuela for only $4,000 and now pay $2,000 per month rent. Was robbed repeatedly on the way through Mexico. They said that they have it harder here because of their legal status, than people who are here illegally. The illegals get so much more government handouts, while the legal people are expected to be responsible self providing people.

Josh wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:55 am NYC is now handing out credit cards with $35 or so a day on them to migrants.
They can spend roughly $1000 a month for a typical situation.

They have to sign a piece of paper saying it will only be spent at bodegas, restaurants, grocery stores, or on baby items.

Hard working Americans don’t get a government funded credit card. But break laws and show up illegally?
Get a free credit card you don’t have to pay back.

Can you imagine how these “jackpot” stories spread like wildfire globally?
Like the California Gold Rush, sacrifice life+limb to get there. Streets paved with gold.

This time, it’s politicians baiting the vulnerable with prizes, “all” they have to do is break laws of the land.
100% amoral. Those who vote for it are complicit. Voters are complicit, whether ignorant, in denial, or other.

For MANY, the idea of being in a U.S. jail/prison would be like winning the lottery. They believe cannot lose.

They don’t realize, by participating, they are destroying the very thing they’re willing to risk everything to have.
No matter to those who believe they have nothing to lose. It’s largely based on gambling with human lives. Throw the dice.

RZehr wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:42 am Yesterday I was hearing about a local Venezuelan refugee couple.
This couple is here legally, just recently arrived. Middle class in Venezuela, flat broke here. Sold their nice home in Venezuela for only $4,000 and now pay $2,000 per month rent. Was robbed repeatedly on the way through Mexico.

They said that they have it harder here because of their legal status, than people who are here illegally.
The illegals get so much more government handouts, while the legal people are expected to be responsible self providing people.

Legal immigrants have been WARNING all these years. They know what they conscientiously left behind.

Lib ideologues know better. They talk a blue streak, don’t they??
Then, votes. They’re vote-motivated.

And the crimes continue. I wonder how long it will be until these illegal migrants will be released from prison.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... hefts.html

RZehr wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:42 am Yesterday I was hearing about a local Venezuelan refugee couple. This couple is here legally, just recently arrived. Middle class in Venezuela, flat broke here. Sold their nice home in Venezuela for only $4,000 and now pay $2,000 per month rent. Was robbed repeatedly on the way through Mexico. They said that they have it harder here because of their legal status, than people who are here illegally. The illegals get so much more government handouts, while the legal people are expected to be responsible self providing people.

Odd; we've been working with an Afghan family that just arrived and mostly the opposite is happening... they are here legally and they are getting numerous types of assistance.