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This seems more like politics than general theology.Ernie wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 11:58 am Southern Baptists Affirm Ban on Gay Marriage at their annual meeting.
https://apnews.com/article/southern-bap ... 6ce2d9f4a5
And they call on the Supreme Court to reverse its 2015 ruling.
The Bible warns that wolves would enter in churches. Sex scandals they do not endorse as acceptable. So they will continue to have to clean up the wolves that creep in as they have seemingly all churches.Ken wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 12:23 pmThis seems more like politics than general theology.Ernie wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 11:58 am Southern Baptists Affirm Ban on Gay Marriage at their annual meeting.
https://apnews.com/article/southern-bap ... 6ce2d9f4a5
And they call on the Supreme Court to reverse its 2015 ruling.
Are they all done cleaning up their own house now? Or is this intended to be a distraction from their own sex scandals?
If the Supreme Court did reverse its 2015 ruling, that would just throw things back to the states like the Dobbs ruling. And turn things back to ugly state-by-state political battles, but mostly in red states. Pretty much every blue state has already legalized same sex marriage and that isn't going anywhere. I'm skeptical that Republicans really want to take on that battle again in a bunch of red states. But maybe I'm wrong.
The wolves (Pressler and Patterson) started the conservative resurgence. For some, that calls into question the integrity of the conference as a whole. What kind of religion is it that permits Paige Patterson, also a founder of the SBC conservative resurgence, to openly in church opine on his lust of a child? These comments weren't even really seen as questionable until other things surfaced.Valerie wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 1:19 pmThe Bible warns that wolves would enter in churches. Sex scandals they do not endorse as acceptable. So they will continue to have to clean up the wolves that creep in as they have seemingly all churches.Ken wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 12:23 pmThis seems more like politics than general theology.Ernie wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 11:58 am Southern Baptists Affirm Ban on Gay Marriage at their annual meeting.
https://apnews.com/article/southern-bap ... 6ce2d9f4a5
And they call on the Supreme Court to reverse its 2015 ruling.
Are they all done cleaning up their own house now? Or is this intended to be a distraction from their own sex scandals?
If the Supreme Court did reverse its 2015 ruling, that would just throw things back to the states like the Dobbs ruling. And turn things back to ugly state-by-state political battles, but mostly in red states. Pretty much every blue state has already legalized same sex marriage and that isn't going anywhere. I'm skeptical that Republicans really want to take on that battle again in a bunch of red states. But maybe I'm wrong.
What on earth are you talking about?joshuabgood wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 1:35 pmWhat kind of religion is it that permits Paige Patterson, also a founder of the SBC conservative resurgence, to openly in church opine on his lust of a child?
Presumably this:JohnH wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:59 pmWhat on earth are you talking about?joshuabgood wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 1:35 pmWhat kind of religion is it that permits Paige Patterson, also a founder of the SBC conservative resurgence, to openly in church opine on his lust of a child?
Oh, okay, so joshuabgood edited 16-year-old to "child". I agree it's not good for anyone to lust in their heart after someone else, but that particular edit seems handcrafted to be overly sensational. The allegation is that:ohio jones wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:36 pmPresumably this:JohnH wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:59 pmWhat on earth are you talking about?joshuabgood wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 1:35 pmWhat kind of religion is it that permits Paige Patterson, also a founder of the SBC conservative resurgence, to openly in church opine on his lust of a child?
https://relevantmagazine.com/faith/chur ... ident-sbc/
This is a ridiculous level of pearl-clutching. Are we supposed to pretend that teenage boys don't flirt with teenage girls, or that doing so is somehow wrong?Jonathan Merritt, the journalist who brought everyone’s attention to The Baptist Blogger’s audio, also notes that saying despicable things isn’t a one-time problem for Patterson. Just check out this sermon he gave in 2014, around the 21:15 mark. He tells a story of two teenage boys who were hitting on an underage girl… something he jokingly defended as biblical:
16 year olds aren’t children?JohnH wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 7:50 pmOh, okay, so joshuabgood edited 16-year-old to "child". I agree it's not good for anyone to lust in their heart after someone else, but that particular edit seems handcrafted to be overly sensational. The allegation is that:ohio jones wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:36 pmPresumably this:
https://relevantmagazine.com/faith/chur ... ident-sbc/
This is a ridiculous level of pearl-clutching. Are we supposed to pretend that teenage boys don't flirt with teenage girls, or that doing so is somehow wrong?Jonathan Merritt, the journalist who brought everyone’s attention to The Baptist Blogger’s audio, also notes that saying despicable things isn’t a one-time problem for Patterson. Just check out this sermon he gave in 2014, around the 21:15 mark. He tells a story of two teenage boys who were hitting on an underage girl… something he jokingly defended as biblical: