The Reformed Churches Promoting...

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Ernie
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Nomad wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2026 4:24 pm
joshuabgood wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2026 3:27 pm
JohnH wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2026 3:14 pm

I mean, it is basically impossible for a sincere Christian to support the Democratic Party in its current incarnation due to their very vocal support for a lot of anti-Christian things.

I think you may be confusing lack of support for the Democratic party with support for the Republican party. Overall, in plain groups who do vote, turnout for the Republicans is quite poor.
What I hear are comments made affirming Republican values and talking points often with the assumption that I will agree and affirm them.

As a person who desire to be a sinceres Christian, I agree, I can't support the Democratic Party or the Republican Party as a political solution. I can only support Jesus for President and his Kingdom Come. I don't hear CA's supporting Democrats (I do hear progressive A's supporting them). I hear CA's supporting Republicans to the tune of about 90 to 10. I actually can't think of a single Amish or OOM that I have ever heard voice support for Democrats. I can think of many that I have heard support Republicans.

Thing is, Jesus didn't come to take sides, he came to take over.
Can you give some examples of comments that you've heard that are "affirming the Republican values"?
I only know of one Plain Anabaptist woman who promotes Democrats and their viewpoints.

This is the sort of thing I hear often from Plain Anabaptists all across the spectrum.
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Nomad
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Re: The Reformed Churches Promoting...

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Ernie wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2026 4:53 pm
Nomad wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2026 4:24 pm
joshuabgood wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2026 3:27 pm

What I hear are comments made affirming Republican values and talking points often with the assumption that I will agree and affirm them.

As a person who desire to be a sinceres Christian, I agree, I can't support the Democratic Party or the Republican Party as a political solution. I can only support Jesus for President and his Kingdom Come. I don't hear CA's supporting Democrats (I do hear progressive A's supporting them). I hear CA's supporting Republicans to the tune of about 90 to 10. I actually can't think of a single Amish or OOM that I have ever heard voice support for Democrats. I can think of many that I have heard support Republicans.

Thing is, Jesus didn't come to take sides, he came to take over.
Can you give some examples of comments that you've heard that are "affirming the Republican values"?
I only know of one Plain Anabaptist woman who promotes Democrats and their viewpoints.

This is the sort of thing I hear often from Plain Anabaptists all across the spectrum.
I'm aware of all the Trump/ Amish supporters in Holmes County and Lancaster (though, admittedly I don't associate with them to much). And I would say that the majority of Anabaptist, if pressed, might show more support for Republican values...though not to the extent I would call them alt-Right. But, I do think there is a rising contingent within Anabaptist that are very vocal about their grievances against the perceived right-winged Conservative Anabaptist.

While I'm probably not the one to talk about this subject due to my lack of expertise (I really don't bring up politics much in conversation). I do notice I've had more discussions lately with some very passionate Anabaptist who are voicing there disapproval of the current administration rather boisterously. I believe some of their concern is justified but perhaps they are a bit more critical and passionate about it then I would be.
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JohnH
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At this point, it's pretty easy to find a plain person who thinks there's a big conspiracy around Epstein and is consequently anti-Trump. This probably points more, though, to the fact that plain people are influenced by podcasts and by propaganda just as much as anyone else.
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Anthony wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2026 9:39 pm
Bootstrap wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2026 10:34 am There are several recent threads on groups that wear head coverings including nationalists and Muslims. Many weird cults do the same.

I think this is the danger in judging by the outside of the cup. Not everyone who wears head coverings is like plain Anabaptists.
On some level I agree, I would imagine the average Doug Wilson church member is more zealous than the average plain anabaptist. Therefore invoking a “danger” you might pick up on.

Im not sure if this is a positive or negative…
The Pharisees were zealous. Extreme Ayatollahs are zealous.
For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. (Romans 10:2)
Zeal is good, but it's not the end of the conversation. Most of the people around me probably consider me pretty zealous, FWIW, but we still have to ask if it is biblical.
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