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"We've been living in that world of accelerating reduction of barriers to doing that sort of thing online versus face-to-face to your neighbor," Hiller said.

" I … actually know all my neighbors and disagree politically significantly with some of them. If one of them ever posted something that I felt really worried me or my family, I would talk to them about it. I would say, 'Hey, you may not have realized the impact this has on me,' " she said. "But I think that people don't do that. It's unexpected to do that in person."

JohnH wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2026 9:19 am How does "doxing" have any meaning with a neighbour?

My neighbour's address is like mine except the last digit changes...

We used to publish thick books delivered to everyone's house with everyone's name, address, and phone number. Nobody thought this was a problem or was a big deal.

temporal1 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2026 12:17 pm i believe you could request to be unlisted, but that was unusual.

most wanted family+friends to be able to find them.

ohio jones wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2026 2:07 pm

temporal1 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2026 12:17 pm i believe you could request to be unlisted, but that was unusual.

It was an extra charge on the monthly bill, and might have been unusual for ordinary law-abiding citizens, but not unusual for businesses to have one or more lines unlisted. You want people to call the receptionist (another antiquity) rather than the phone in the elevator.

temporal1 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2026 3:28 pm

ohio jones wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2026 2:07 pm

temporal1 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2026 12:17 pm i believe you could request to be unlisted, but that was unusual.

It was an extra charge on the monthly bill, and might have been unusual for ordinary law-abiding citizens, but not unusual for businesses to have one or more lines unlisted. You want people to call the receptionist (another antiquity) rather than the phone in the elevator.

My daughter knows i’d like to revisit Santa Barbara and Montecito and area, Summerland (with the phone book) with all my family, i’d like to revisit whatever’s left with them .. i’m pretty sure a lot remains. Not all. i think the ice cream shop is there, i’d order macadamia nut ice cream, and dream of visiting Hawaii, which many did from that location. Hawaii is still very far, even from the west coast.

i don’t imagine our little bougainvillea-covered cottage from a converted garage on the hillside is there, $150/mo cash, no lease, a handshake did it; nor the nearby beautiful small business i worked for, those properties would be too valuable to remain. i’d like to drive by.

There were several lush municipal small parks and sites around of interest. i expect they’re still there.
It was beautiful and idyllic. With a constant highway buzz and lots of theft of everything all the time.
i suppose those things remain.



^^notice what looks like a small gutter running from underneath the door.
my kinna house.

Ernie wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2026 10:22 pm https://www.npr.org/2026/09/12/nx-s1-59 ... ath-doxing

Neighbor against neighbor - And doxing is becoming mainstream.

"We've been living in that world of accelerating reduction of barriers to doing that sort of thing online versus face-to-face to your neighbor," Hiller said.

" I … actually know all my neighbors and disagree politically significantly with some of them. If one of them ever posted something that I felt really worried me or my family, I would talk to them about it. I would say, 'Hey, you may not have realized the impact this has on me,' " she said. "But I think that people don't do that. It's unexpected to do that in person."

I would like if we could have a discussion about doxing and neighbors against neighbors, without getting caught in the political polarization that is fueling it. Is that possible? Let's try.

ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2026 10:07 pm For some reason, people seem less willing than ever to allow others to withhold judgment about a situation or to hold complex views about a situation.

Ernie wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2026 7:30 am

ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2026 10:07 pm For some reason, people seem less willing than ever to allow others to withhold judgment about a situation or to hold complex views about a situation.

This needs highlighted!
It's one thing to be judgmental. It's quite another thing to not allow others to not be judgmental.

There are certain things that scripture calls us to judge. But there are many other things that we don't know a lot about or things that are not black and white that require nuanced responses. And sometimes there is not time or energy for delving into the complexity. But in this day and era, people are expected to make judgments on things anyhow.