Haiti Kidnapping

Things that are not part of politics happening presently and how we approach or address it as Anabaptists.
temporal1

Re: Haiti Kidnapping

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RZehr wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:16 pm
Soloist wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 6:46 pm
RZehr wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 5:21 pm Not sure how much people are aware of this, but I heard that there has been another group of about 22 +/- people kidnapped in Haiti recently. Apparently one of them may be the spouse and/or child of one of CAM's Haitian employees there? I don't know much beyond that or if it is true.
Now will people still care? now that their own loved are safe? Will we still have organized fasts from CAM? will generous donors offer bribes that ultimately were useless? or will the silent group pray and silently God will work?
I’m guessing that much or all of the above has/is happening. But I might expect the ones who are doing so, are Haitian instead of American.

For better and worse, international news coverage in the U.S. is virtually nonexistent, esp regarding Christian news, this was noted early in this thread. Many of us were surprised the CAM kidnappings were mentioned at all.

i first noticed this gaping hole in 1970-ish, as an older teen visiting Montreal. first travel, first international travel.
at that time, “all the news” in the U.S. was about Vietnam, and civil rights violence. lots of violence in the U.S. at that time.

i was horrified to visit Montreal, to see they were fiercely warring over language! it was quite a shock.
in 50+ years since, even with 24/7 “news” cycles, there is almost no change in mainstream coverage/content! loads of repetition!

there are problems/inconsistencies, not all due to lack of interest or hard hearts. imho.

presently, the example of the Trucker Convoy in Canada - ignored in the mainstream (in Canada and the U.S.) viewtopic.php?f=9&t=91&start=150 it’s amazing the power+control they have.

“for better and worse.”
involving the U.S. in “everything” isn’t any guarantee good will result. be careful what you wish for. :-|
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Ernie

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RZehr wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 5:21 pm Not sure how much people are aware of this, but I heard that there has been another group of about 22 +/- people kidnapped in Haiti recently. Apparently one of them may be the spouse and/or child of one of CAM's Haitian employees there? I don't know much beyond that or if it is true.
We've been trying to get information on this for several days and have not gotten anything yet...
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Josh

Re: Haiti Kidnapping

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Soloist wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 6:46 pm
RZehr wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 5:21 pm Not sure how much people are aware of this, but I heard that there has been another group of about 22 +/- people kidnapped in Haiti recently. Apparently one of them may be the spouse and/or child of one of CAM's Haitian employees there? I don't know much beyond that or if it is true.
Now will people still care? now that their own loved are safe? Will we still have organized fasts from CAM? will generous donors offer bribes that ultimately were useless? or will the silent group pray and silently God will work?
Life is pretty rough in Haiti right now (at least from second hand reports we can get). Wives wonder if their husband will ever return, when he goes to town. Machine-gun fire in the background. The bandits seem to have control of the country.
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temporal1

Re: Haiti Kidnapping

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Josh wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:21 am
Soloist wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 6:46 pm
RZehr wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 5:21 pm Not sure how much people are aware of this, but I heard that there has been another group of about 22 +/- people kidnapped in Haiti recently. Apparently one of them may be the spouse and/or child of one of CAM's Haitian employees there? I don't know much beyond that or if it is true.
Now will people still care? now that their own loved are safe? Will we still have organized fasts from CAM? will generous donors offer bribes that ultimately were useless? or will the silent group pray and silently God will work?
Life is pretty rough in Haiti right now (at least from second hand reports we can get). Wives wonder if their husband will ever return, when he goes to town. Machine-gun fire in the background. The bandits seem to have control of the country.

It reminds of 1970’s Colombia.
https://www.nrc.no/perspectives/2015/nr ... y-history/
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mike

Re: Haiti Kidnapping

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One of the kidnapped men in the group is the son of some folks we know. We just heard this evening that he is now dating one of the young ladies who was a fellow captive. All the best to them. <heart emoji>
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RZehr

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Ya. Joke is, that is why he was hesitant about trying to escape immediately. :lol:
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mike

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RZehr wrote: ↑Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:40 pm Ya. Joke is, that is why he was hesitant about trying to escape immediately. :lol:
LOL
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Joy

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Well, a hostage situation would surely show up character quicker than the usual dating situation.
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Re: Haiti Kidnapping

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mike wrote: ↑Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:36 pm One of the kidnapped men in the group is the son of some folks we know. We just heard this evening that he is now dating one of the young ladies who was a fellow captive. All the best to them. <heart emoji>
That is certainly going to be a part of the "made for TV" movie that comes out of this!

There are plenty of photos of this group posted across the internet. I expect there will be some speculation as to which two we are talking about
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Soloist

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Ken wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 10:03 pm
mike wrote: ↑Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:36 pm One of the kidnapped men in the group is the son of some folks we know. We just heard this evening that he is now dating one of the young ladies who was a fellow captive. All the best to them. <heart emoji>
That is certainly going to be a part of the "made for TV" movie that comes out of this!

There are plenty of photos of this group posted across the internet. I expect there will be some speculation as to which two we are talking about
Speculation assumes we don't know :mrgreen:
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