Young Women Euthanized for Trauma

[Thomas_muntzer]

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In each case, we are talking about young women who, for the most part, are physically healthy but suffer mentally. And what does the State do? Instead of healing them, it kills them. [...]

This is immoral.

This is perverse.

I agree that this is perverse and immoral. But I doubt the State has the ability to heal them. Knowing that, they give up.

Well, it's true that health is an issue that should be addressed from the perspective of the individual, the family, the community, and finally the state. I'm referring mainly to the argument used to finance the healthcare system with tax money; supposedly it's to help people, to heal them, but instead it ends up killing them

[JohnH]

Well, it's true that health is an issue that should be addressed from the perspective of the individual, the family, the community, and finally the state. I'm referring mainly to the argument used to finance the healthcare system with tax money; supposedly it's to help people, to heal them, but instead it ends up killing them

Killing "inconvenient" people is cheaper for state than spending resources to help them. Such inconvenient people can include unborn babies, teenagers with depression, or, in this case, a rape victim who only ended up being a victim because of the state's actions.

[Praxis+Theodicy]

I agree that this is perverse and immoral. But I doubt the State has the ability to heal them. Knowing that, they give up.

Maybe this is an area ripe unto harvest as Jesus said. Maybe this church should be moving into these spaces with confidence that healing is possible with the power of God. Maybe instead of standing back and pointing we should have the confidence of the early church father Origen who wrote in reply to the emperor who asked why Christians do not assist Rome by serving in the military,

"We who by our prayers destroy all demons which stir up wars, violate oaths, and disturb the peace are of more help to the emperors than those who seem to be doing the fighting.

Maybe we should be saying "bring those patients to us to see what God will do."

Stanley Hauerwas says that in the near future, if true Christianity persists, Christians "will be known as those peculiar people who don't kill their babies or old people."

[Wesleyb]

Stanley Hauerwas says that in the near future, if true Christianity persists, Christians "will be known as those peculiar people who don't kill their babies or old people."

Or their enemies?

[JohnH]

Stanley Hauerwas says that in the near future, if true Christianity persists, Christians "will be known as those peculiar people who don't kill their babies or old people."

Or their enemies?

Let’s not get too extreme here.

[temporal1]

Maybe this is an area ripe unto harvest as Jesus said. Maybe this church should be moving into these spaces with confidence that healing is possible with the power of God. Maybe instead of standing back and pointing we should have the confidence of the early church father Origen who wrote in reply to the emperor who asked why Christians do not assist Rome by serving in the military,

"We who by our prayers destroy all demons which stir up wars, violate oaths, and disturb the peace are of more help to the emperors than those who seem to be doing the fighting.

Maybe we should be saying "bring those patients to us to see what God will do."

Stanley Hauerwas says that in the near future, if true Christianity persists,
Christians "will be known as those peculiar people who don't kill their babies or old people."

Or young women. For their organs. For any reason.

Even without Christianity.

Primum non nocere translates directly to "first, do no harm" and serves as a foundational principle in medical ethics, emphasizing that healthcare professionals should avoid causing unnecessary harm to patients while providing care. Although often associated with the Hippocratic Oath, the exact Latin wording does not appear in the original texts; it is derived from Hippocrates’ guidance in Epidemics, Book I, Section 11, which advises physicians to either help or at least avoid harming patients. ..