Trans student killed in school

[Neto]

I had seen this topic, but don't read political stuff, so I didn't know till just this morning that this happened in the school system where i attended all 12 years of school. Over the intervening years Owasso has gone from a small Cherokee town to a metropolis. Nothing like the little town I knew back then. (But I was very seldom in Owasso, except for school. We did our shopping in the town of Collinsville, which was not only 1 mile closer, but also had a lot more stores. Now it is the little dinky town, and the place where I grew up is now a part of Owasso city limits.)

I know people in Skiatook.

About 12 miles west on Oklahoma highway 20. My great uncle owned the 5 & 10 there during my childhood. Took my drivers test there (the time I finally passed).

[temporal1]

Well maybe they actually know what the cause of death was. I mean, if the child went home and intentionally overdosed on pills, and it was known, then they could probably safely say without a autopsy that it wasn’t trauma. Without saying all that they know.

Well I’ve seen talk of suicide but I can’t find any source for those rumors. Saying something and saying full results will come later is odd.

This has been spun so many ways, I am getting dizzy.

This is where i was so impacted by the response of Nickel Mines, to REFUSE to allow fickle, self-serving media/politics from exploiting their horrific tragedy. The bereaved should be protected from such exploitation. Esp in the moment. What is routine in these incidents is inhumane.

Not wrt what is shared here, but, what i’m seeing “in public” display is (like others) not what any innocent child’s memory should be reduced to.

[RZehr]

I really have no idea about this, am not suggesting it was suicide, had not read any thing like suicide. I just mentioned it as an example of how trauma could have been quickly ruled out by the authorities before an autopsy was done. That is all.

[Judas Maccabeus]

The only thing I am noticing is the general media silence on this.

[Ken]

The only thing I am noticing is the general media silence on this.

Why would it be news now that it is clear that this person didn't die due to an assault based on their being LGBT?

Approximately 8,000 Americans die on average every single day. Vanishingly few of those deaths are newsworthy and fewer still of national interest.

[Judas Maccabeus]

The only thing I am noticing is the general media silence on this.

Why would it be news now that it is clear that this person didn't die due to an assault based on their being LGBT?

Approximately 8,000 Americans die on average every single day. Vanishingly few of those deaths are newsworthy and fewer still of national interest.

How rapidly the LGBTIA movement and it’s allies made a big issue of how they “demand answers” and how quickly they fall silent when it does not fit the preferred narrative.

Kind of like the Nashville School Shooter. When will we ever see that manifesto?

[Ken]

The only thing I am noticing is the general media silence on this.

Why would it be news now that it is clear that this person didn't die due to an assault based on their being LGBT?

Approximately 8,000 Americans die on average every single day. Vanishingly few of those deaths are newsworthy and fewer still of national interest.

How rapidly the LGBTIA movement and it’s allies made a big issue of how they “demand answers” and how quickly they fall silent when it does not fit the preferred narrative.

Kind of like the Nashville School Shooter. When will we ever see that manifesto?

Well, the LGBT "movement' didn't publish and circulate the story, the traditional media did. And they didn't decide to drop any follow up. Again, the traditional media did. LGBT activists can stir up a storm on twitter and respond to interviews. But they don't control the media. The media does. So I think your blame is misplaced. Once the traditional media discovered the story wasn't what they thought, they moved on to the next thing and it became yesterday's news.

As for Nashville? Whatever information is released or not released with respect to that case is entirely the purview of the Nashville Police Department, Tennessee State Police, and state AG office. Not "LGBT Activists"

[Neto]

I am frankly confused by the terminology here. Did she first start identifying as a boy, then later switch to "binary"? That doesn't sound like "trans" to me, but something else. (Not sure what.)

[Ken]

I am frankly confused by the terminology here. Did she first start identifying as a boy, then later switch to "binary"? That doesn't sound like "trans" to me, but something else. (Not sure what.)

I read the story and couldn't figure out if this child was a biological male or female. But apparently at some point this person decided they were nonbinary which is kind of the "none of the above" category and different from trans. So was not using either male or female pronouns.

But I don't think there was any reporting suggesting this person was trans or transitioning unless I missed it. As I understand it, "nonbinary" means you have decided that you don't fit in either gender category, or perhaps more accurately that you don't fit EXCLUSIVELY in either gender category. But it does not mean you are trans or trying to transition from one gender to the other

[RZehr]

But I don't think there was any reporting suggesting this person was trans or transitioning unless I missed it. As I understand it, "nonbinary" means you have decided that you don't fit in either gender category. But it does not mean you are trans or trying to transition from one gender to the other

The original title in the OP link, referred to the person as “Trans”. But I see now that the title has been changed on that news article.

I see that the article now says:
“Editor's note: This story has been updated. It contains descriptions of violence against a nonbinary person.”