I was speaking of the way you dodged the question.
Then you took us down the bunny trail to change the subject so you wouldn't have to give an answer.
I was speaking of the way you dodged the question.
The subject is the subject of the thread. The first several posts tried to hijack the thread and change the subject. I am not going to pursue those bunny trails. That also means I will not answer questions that are not about the subject of the thread. Those are the bunny trails, the subject of the thread is not a bunny trail.
I did not see that the arson against the St. John's Church in DC by BLM activists was called a hate crime. Maybe who did it determines if it was a hate crime?Josh wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:33 pmIt's a big assumption that arson committed against churches is even a "hate crime". Arson happens for a lot of different reasons, but is usually an in-group activity.Bootstrap wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:22 pm There are, in fact, hate crimes in America. Some of them are committed against churches. If you are offended by any discussion that mentions swastikas, I suggest we launch a new thread to discuss why that is. In this thread, it's OK to discuss whatever arson occurs, and that includes spray painted swastikas, which the bishops of the Catholic Church chose to mention in their one-paragraph summary.
More importantly, I'm not sure what spray-painted swastikas have to do with arson. Flammable aerosol cans?
See how they report this. The ADL reports that the man actually had Black Nationalist and anti-semitic viewpoints on his Facebook account (stop there).The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) reported that the contents of Brooks's Facebook account, which contained "Black nationalist and antisemitic" viewpoints, and his crime were exploited by white supremacists in order to push racist and antisemitic conspiracy theories, claiming Brooks's attack was racially motivated, that he killed his victims specifically because he hated white people, and that Jewish people were attempting to cover up the incident. Law enforcement did not give a motive for the attack
Crowder and others released actual copies of the Hale manifesto. The mainstream media ignored it.As of April 14, 2023, police have not publicly disclosed a motive for the shooting. Hale's surviving writings, including diaries and a planning document, initially called a "manifesto", were described by police as "rambling" and empty of any specific political or social issues.[33] Three pages of Hale's diary, described by CNN as containing "hate-filled language" directed at the school and its children, were leaked by conservative commentator Steven Crowder on November 6, 2023.[44] The journal ramblings included homophobic and racist rhetoric and religious metaphors.[45]
Yes, thank you.Bootstrap wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:43 pmThe subject is the subject of the thread. The first several posts tried to hijack the thread and change the subject. I am not going to pursue those bunny trails. That also means I will not answer questions that are not about the subject of the thread. Those are the bunny trails, the subject of the thread is not a bunny trail.
Do you have any comments about the original post, the article it references, or anything else that is on topic?
Frankly, I had forgotten the definition of arson. Thanks for pointing this out!Josh wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:33 pmIt's a big assumption that arson committed against churches is even a "hate crime". Arson happens for a lot of different reasons, but is usually an in-group activity.Bootstrap wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:22 pm There are, in fact, hate crimes in America. Some of them are committed against churches. If you are offended by any discussion that mentions swastikas, I suggest we launch a new thread to discuss why that is. In this thread, it's OK to discuss whatever arson occurs, and that includes spray painted swastikas, which the bishops of the Catholic Church chose to mention in their one-paragraph summary.
More importantly, I'm not sure what spray-painted swastikas have to do with arson. Flammable aerosol cans?
I would like to allow discussion of other serious property crimes against churches and their properties. Defacing cemeteries, for instance, is a fairly serious act.the criminal act of deliberately setting fire to property.
Yet most arsonists pay no penalty for their deeds. It's estimated
that only 10 percent of all arson cases are "cleared" by arrest-and
that only one percent of all arsonists are convicted of the crime. (A
few others are institutionalized for psychiatric treatment as an alter-
native to conviction.)
Looks like only a small percent of arsonists are ever caught, though the percent is higher for church arsonists, especially high profile ones.
Clearance rate of arson offenses in the United States in 2022, by type
After 4 or 5 incidents, they should be able to catch someone or figure out what is causing the problem.In 2022, about 24.7 percent of all arsons in the United States were cleared by either arrest or exceptional means. In the same year, about 26.8 percent of all structure arsons were cleared by arrest or exceptional means.
I look into things a bit and you did have a significant point: the rise in church arson in Canada coincides with the rise in the U.S., and it may be the timing with the residential-school scandals was merely coincidence.