Russia Invades Ukraine 2022

[Soloist]

For the record I doubt these programs will stop the government from taking our young men if push comes to shove. I feel it would be far more viable for them to live a consistent Christian witness than build a few houses.
I really doubt the military would torture anyone though, they’re going to use the more effective tactic… boring them to death until they join.

[temporal1]

On another note concerning Ukraine. Biden promises a mere pittance of $700.00 to every household in Maui who were victims of the wildfires. On the same day he announced the measly $700. to Maui residents, he asked congress for 40 billion, over half of it for Ukraine.

Seattle / King County spends $65M to move 300 homeless people out of freeway camps
https://www.thecentersquare.com/washing ... 8b5b7.html

[Ken]

Oh, really?

No I made it all up.

It’s called a logical inference

Personally, I wouldn't dare to hope that my service today precludes me from military service tomorrow especially after reading "Pacifists in Chains".

But as Ken describes, the military today is very different from the turn of the century making the draft highly unlikely.

The other thing to keep in mind is that the modern Pentagon is absolutely opposed to any form of conscription. They think it is absolutely the wrong approach to meeting their manpower needs.

The military of today wants to recruit specialists and train them into skilled roles that they will stay in for meaningful lengths of time. They don't want to deal with hundreds of thousands of unskilled draftees who are conscripted for short-term enlistments. The experience of Vietnam taught them that having an army full of unwilling conscripts is absolutely toxic to military morale and effectiveness and it took them a generation to rebuild it into a professional all-volunteer force. No one in the Pentagon hierarchy wants to go back to mass conscription. That is more the fantasy of civilian politicians who promote such things for other reasons such as patriotism, not military necessity.

So the Pentagon would actually fight any attempts to bring back conscription. They don't want it and don't want to deal with all the baggage that would come with it, for very good reasons.

[Ken]

On another note concerning Ukraine. Biden promises a mere pittance of $700.00 to every household in Maui who were victims of the wildfires. On the same day he announced the measly $700. to Maui residents, he asked congress for 40 billion, over half of it for Ukraine.

Seattle / King County spends $65M to move 300 homeless people out of freeway camps
https://www.thecentersquare.com/washing ... 8b5b7.html

And Texas spends billions upon billions of dollars on pointless highways to nowhere.

There is a lot of pointless government spending, and a lot that does important things. Sometimes it is hard to distinguish. Sometimes not.

For example, from the article you cited:

Under the initiative, Washington provided $49.2 million to the authority. The funding was distributed to different areas to support the state program: approximately $19 million to acquire new construction housing, some $12 million to lease a hotel for emergency housing and about $17 million for other permanent housing and administration.

Is that money being wasted? I have no idea. Hard to tell from the article.

[RZehr]

Seattle / King County spends $65M to move 300 homeless people out of freeway camps
https://www.thecentersquare.com/washing ... 8b5b7.html

And Texas spends billions upon billions of dollars on pointless highways to nowhere.

Well shoot. If WA and TX could just lay aside politics, and instead communicate, they could work something good out. Either WA could move their homeless to the TX highways to nowhere. Or maybe TX could build their unneeded additional highways in WA in order to provide freeway camps for the homeless.

[AndersonD]

Personally, I wouldn't dare to hope that my service today precludes me from military service tomorrow especially after reading "Pacifists in Chains".

But as Ken describes, the military today is very different from the turn of the century making the draft highly unlikely.

I already was in the military

That's tragic. Honorable discharge???

[Soloist]

That's tragic. Honorable discharge???

Yes. I served my 5, filed my CO paperwork while in my inactive reserve 3 years. They said the apocalypse would happen before they filed my paperwork.

I didn’t grow up Mennonite, I would have been Baptist/nondenominational all my childhood. I believed lies about the military and now the blinders are removed and I have seen reality.
I’m not sorry for my experience, it was instrumental in leading us to repent.

[temporal1]

That's tragic. Honorable discharge???

Yes. I served my 5, filed my CO paperwork while in my inactive reserve 3 years. They said the apocalypse would happen before they filed my paperwork.

I didn’t grow up Mennonite, I would have been Baptist/nondenominational all my childhood. I believed lies about the military and now the blinders are removed and I have seen reality.
I’m not sorry for my experience, it was instrumental in leading us to repent.

i think you know .. there are other forum members, some read only, that were in the military, then converted to CO.
Jesus offers His way to all, and did so under the ultimate personal duress.

[AndersonD]

That's tragic. Honorable discharge???

Yes. I served my 5, filed my CO paperwork while in my inactive reserve 3 years. They said the apocalypse would happen before they filed my paperwork.

I didn’t grow up Mennonite, I would have been Baptist/nondenominational all my childhood. I believed lies about the military and now the blinders are removed and I have seen reality.
I’m not sorry for my experience, it was instrumental in leading us to repent.

i think you know .. there are other forum members, some read only, that were in the military, then converted to CO.

I guess I assumed that there would be no members in the military on a Mennonite forum. Sort of like, "Only Mennonites, Allowed". Sigh, now Mennonet doesn't feel like a safe space.

[temporal1]

Yes. I served my 5, filed my CO paperwork while in my inactive reserve 3 years. They said the apocalypse would happen before they filed my paperwork.

I didn’t grow up Mennonite, I would have been Baptist/nondenominational all my childhood. I believed lies about the military and now the blinders are removed and I have seen reality.
I’m not sorry for my experience, it was instrumental in leading us to repent.

i think you know .. there are other forum members, some read only, that were in the military, then converted to CO.

I guess I assumed that there would be no members in the military on a Mennonite forum. Sort of like, "Only Mennonites, Allowed". Sigh, now Mennonet doesn't feel like a safe space.

Please understand, these are not active military .. CONVERTED hearts, invited by Jesus. (To me, each an impressive Christian testimony.)

Not that it makes the forum a safe place. For other reasons.