I'm sorry it came across as tearing down. Maybe because I've been seeing these conversations for 15 years. I don't see things improving and I don't think it's going to be resolved on this particular discussion forum.NedFlanders wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 9:46 pmThere are brothers and sisters going apostate and so there is concern and compassion. And you view such as comparing?Valerie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 2:03 pm This is reminding me of a message from Charity in 2008 i think it was- may sound familiar:
"Also He spoke this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisees stood and prayed this with himself, 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men - extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector. I fast twice a week I give tithes of all that I possess. And the tax collector standing a far off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying "God, be merciful to me a sinner!" I tell you this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted".Luke 18:9-14.
The message was given from a visiting padtor from South America noticing how Lancaster PA Christians were comparing themselves in such a way as the Pharisee- it was an admonishment & warning.
He repeated 3x: "be careful of spiritual pride, it is an infection"
It does creep up on us doesn't it?
It seemed shortly after this admonishment is when Charity began some changes
Is it not okay to desire to understand drift to aid in being a blessing and building up? Why tear down like this Valerie?
I cant help but wonder if the foundation/priorities shifted