Hitler was a puppet

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Re: Hitler was a puppet

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slave wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:17 pm Between 1941-1945, 4-6 million Jews were killed by Nazi Germany. This event is known as the Holocaust.
My claim now:
Hitler was a puppet of America. America installed him and his party and wanted the Holocaust to have a pretext for the founding of the state of Israel.

This is a bold claim. Do I have proof or at least indications for this? Yes, I have 3 indications that speak in favor of this.
But first of all: I do not sympathize with Hitler. He was an evil madman.

The 3 indications:

1. Hitler was financed by America
It's not a bold claim, it is a ridiculous and untrue claim. The well-known fact that American businesses traded with pre-war Nazi Germany is not the same thing as America financing and installing Hitler.
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Re: Hitler was a puppet

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And there it is...

Quite obviously, this is the former poster named "Lex".
Also quite obvious, not Anabaptist. There aren't any Anabaptists that believe or talk the way you do.
Most likely, a Muslim.
Isn't there a different forum where you can mingle with your own kind?
I don't think you will persuade anyone here with your outrageous views and claims. It didn't work before and it surely won't now.
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Re: Hitler was a puppet

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slave wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:31 pm
mike wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:22 pm It's not a bold claim, it is a ridiculous and untrue claim. The well-known fact that American businesses traded with pre-war Nazi Germany is not the same thing as America financing and installing Hitler.
Professor Antony C. Sutton:
Not only was an influential sector of American business aware of the nature of Nazism, but for its own purposes aided Nazism wherever possible (and profitable)―with full knowledge that the probable outcome would be war involving Europe and the United States.”
America knew what the Nazis were, yet America financed them. It was all planned by America. They even knew of the Holocaust but did not stop it. America was the world power number 1 since 1900. They had the power to crush nazi germany, but they did decide to wait until enough Jews were killed.
What I said.
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Re: Hitler was a puppet

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slave wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:40 pm
sojourner wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:28 pm And there it is...

Quite obviously, this is the former poster named "Lex".
Also quite obvious, not Anabaptist. There aren't any Anabaptists that believe or talk the way you do.
Most likely, a Muslim.
Isn't there a different forum where you can mingle with your own kind?
I don't think you will persuade anyone here with your outrageous views and claims. It didn't work before and it surely won't now.
Instead of attacking me, why don't you attack America for knowing about the Holocaust but did not stop it? Why did they allow the Nazis to kill millions of Jews? I want to repeat: America was the world power number 1 since 1900. America could've crushed Nazi Germany.
Is Sojourner correct that you are the former poster named Lex?
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Re: Hitler was a puppet

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slave wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:40 pm
sojourner wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:28 pm And there it is...

Quite obviously, this is the former poster named "Lex".
Also quite obvious, not Anabaptist. There aren't any Anabaptists that believe or talk the way you do.
Most likely, a Muslim.
Isn't there a different forum where you can mingle with your own kind?
I don't think you will persuade anyone here with your outrageous views and claims. It didn't work before and it surely won't now.
Instead of attacking me, why don't you attack America for knowing about the Holocaust but did not stop it? Why did they allow the Nazis to kill millions of Jews? I want to repeat: America was the world power number 1 since 1900. America could've crushed Nazi Germany.

Where did I attack you?
I don't believe I slandered you in anyway.
There is no appetite here for anti-Semitism.
I don't need to defend America. I have a heavenly citizenship.
WWII happened a long time ago. I have no way of knowing what really happened and quite frankly it doesn't matter.
If indeed what you say is true, I'm not sure how or why it was America's job to prevent the extermination of Jews.
It's not the U.S. job to police the world. Even as we speak there are wars all over the world. Innocent people dying.
Take Myanmar for example, you probably aren't even aware, the military government is killing its own people for years already. But because they are a third world country, few people are aware. Hundreds of thousands have fled with their lives. Do you think the U.S. should intervene there?

Because of sin, we live in a broken world. As Christians, I believe our duty is to take up the cross and follow Christ and make disciples.
The world will always have its problems. We can't fix that. We can't take sides. It's not what we are called to do.

Also, I think it's awful optimistic to say the U.S. could have crushed Nazi Germany by themselves.
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*Anti -Semitism Alert*

In a broad way, I think there is evidence for all three assertions but they don't prove a whole lot. Antisemitism, master-race ideology and racial purity were present and growing in America in the 20's and 30's. There is nothing here to prove.
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slave wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:40 pm
sojourner wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:28 pm And there it is...

Quite obviously, this is the former poster named "Lex".
Also quite obvious, not Anabaptist. There aren't any Anabaptists that believe or talk the way you do.
Most likely, a Muslim.
Isn't there a different forum where you can mingle with your own kind?
I don't think you will persuade anyone here with your outrageous views and claims. It didn't work before and it surely won't now.
Instead of attacking me, why don't you attack America for knowing about the Holocaust but did not stop it? Why did they allow the Nazis to kill millions of Jews? I want to repeat: America was the world power number 1 since 1900. America could've crushed Nazi Germany.
America spent an absolutely enormous amount of blood and treasure stopping the Nazis. Adjusted for inflation, the amount the US spent fighting the war exceeded $4 trillion. And, in fact, the United States pursued a "Germany First" policy throughout the course of the war in which the European theater took priority over the Pacific theater.
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Re: Hitler was a puppet

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mike wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:36 pm
slave wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:31 pm
mike wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:22 pm It's not a bold claim, it is a ridiculous and untrue claim. The well-known fact that American businesses traded with pre-war Nazi Germany is not the same thing as America financing and installing Hitler.
Professor Antony C. Sutton:
Not only was an influential sector of American business aware of the nature of Nazism, but for its own purposes aided Nazism wherever possible (and profitable)―with full knowledge that the probable outcome would be war involving Europe and the United States.”
America knew what the Nazis were, yet America financed them. It was all planned by America. They even knew of the Holocaust but did not stop it. America was the world power number 1 since 1900. They had the power to crush nazi germany, but they did decide to wait until enough Jews were killed.
What I said.
As I recall, the US did'n't wait to enter the war until enough Jews were killed. They entered the war after Pearl Harbor was bombed. Originally, I believe it was the US's intention to stay out of the war.
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Re: Hitler was a puppet

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sojourner wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:11 pm
mike wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:36 pm
slave wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:31 pm
Professor Antony C. Sutton:

America knew what the Nazis were, yet America financed them. It was all planned by America. They even knew of the Holocaust but did not stop it. America was the world power number 1 since 1900. They had the power to crush nazi germany, but they did decide to wait until enough Jews were killed.
What I said.
As I recall, the US did'n't wait to enter the war until enough Jews were killed. They entered the war after Pearl Harbor was bombed. Originally, I believe it was the US's intention to stay out of the war.
Technically Germany declared war on the US after Pearl Harbor, not the other way around: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_de ... ted_States

Although the US was certainly heavily involved in supporting the British before that happened.
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mike wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:43 pm
slave wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:40 pm
sojourner wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:28 pm And there it is...

Quite obviously, this is the former poster named "Lex".
Also quite obvious, not Anabaptist. There aren't any Anabaptists that believe or talk the way you do.
Most likely, a Muslim.
Isn't there a different forum where you can mingle with your own kind?
I don't think you will persuade anyone here with your outrageous views and claims. It didn't work before and it surely won't now.
Instead of attacking me, why don't you attack America for knowing about the Holocaust but did not stop it? Why did they allow the Nazis to kill millions of Jews? I want to repeat: America was the world power number 1 since 1900. America could've crushed Nazi Germany.
Is Sojourner correct that you are the former poster named Lex?
And if he is, isn't this a violation of forum policies to sign up a second account under a different name?
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